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rustydrd@sh.itjust.works to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago

TIL When you hover over a piece of the phonetic notation on (English) Wikipedia, it shows you an example for its pronunciation

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TIL When you hover over a piece of the phonetic notation on (English) Wikipedia, it shows you an example for its pronunciation

sh.itjust.works

rustydrd@sh.itjust.works to Today I Learned@lemmy.worldEnglish · 4 months ago
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    Your choice of screen shot makes it look like a statement. Fortunately, you made the right choice.

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      The fact that the cursor points at the correct pronunciation is purely by accident.

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        Sure

    • kambusha@sh.itjust.works
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      ‘g’ in ‘gin’

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        If you guys won’t get along we’ll have to compromise and go with the g in ‘rough’

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          I prefer the g in ‘though’ but not the g in ‘tough’

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            So, if?

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        I didn’t know that it was pronounced Jraphic design.

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          alright start pronouncing it jfeg and lasir

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            1

          • irish_link@lemmy.world
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            Fair point.

        • Capricorn_Geriatric@lemmy.world
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          Don’t forget JRAFIK JINTERJANJE JORMAT!

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        Another good choice! Cheers to that!

      • Kami@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        The only correct pronounce

        • HaveYouPaidYourDues@lemmy.world
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          G in gnat

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            G as in jack

      • ObliviousEnlightenment@lemmy.world
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        I do love grin with no r

    • jawa22@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      You’re all wrong.

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    It's pronounced Jod

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      Gesus!

      • squirrel@discuss.tchncs.de
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        It’s a nice chord

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      what if its actually pronounced with the dutch g?

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        Is it the one where you pretend to deepthroat a frikandel?

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          Pretend?

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            Aah I see there are depths to the Dutch spirit I’ve yet to uncover. All my encounters with the Dutch have been at a pre-canal-swimming drunkenness level.

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          Pretend?

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      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oven_of_Akhnai?wprov=sfla1

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        That was a nice read, thank you.

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      We’d have to remix What If Jod Was One Of Us?

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        Not much would change, actually. The lyrics would be pretty much the same.

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    Uh, sorry, no. It's Joint Photographic Experts Group. PH, not P. It's pronounced "JFEG". Helen opens up an entirely new front in the GIF wars

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      I can get behind this.

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    Jo fuck yourself, you knew what you were doing with your example. Now I’m irrationally angry at half the people in this thread.

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      Man, honestly. I thought using GIF as an example would be a funny way to illustrate this genuinely cool feature. I expected some craziness but not at this level. People comment with passion, holy hell.

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        I just thought throwing gasoline on the fire would make it become “wet fire”, I had no idea what I was doing!

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        You knew what you were posting and it’s funny.

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        I’m literally never going to Wikipedia again because of you.

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        I know, I’m one of them and I don’t like it, lol.

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        Know what’s funnier than you doing this on purpose? You stumbling into it face first. :)

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    deleted by creator

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    Another gift from Wikipedia.

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      Don’t you mean a jift?

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    Jraphical Interchange Format

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      giraffe wearing comic sunglasses with the text jiraphical

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      Self contained uunderwater breathing ahpparatus

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        Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation

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    This belongs in shitpost. Bravo on on kicking the hornet’s nest.

    We should find a solution everyone will hate. I suggest no more acronym and stick to initialism.

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      We could start arguing about how the ‘I’ is pronounced instead of the ‘G’. I vote we shake things up and go with a long e sound.

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      This is about the phonetics tooltip on Wikipedia, the GIF page is just for illustration, because that’s a phonetics topic that many people know.

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        TIL that you can link to an image using markdown in Lemmy with this syntax: ![](<INSERT URL>).

        THE FOLLOWING IS ONLY FOR ILLUSTRATION AND NOT COMMENTARY.

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      pronounce it “tshiff”

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    If the entire internet was replaced with just wikipedia i don’t think I’d mind

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      good news! you can download the whole of wikipedia (minus the images) for a few gigs.

      giggidy!

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        Sure, but the rest of the shithole would still be there.

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          shithole

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    Thats pretty cool, thanks. I am having a hard time translating phonetic notation into sunds in my head :D

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      Me too, so this was a big revelation for me.

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      It’s a little more difficult, but if you click on the pronunciation link it gives you tables for all the sounds too.

      I’ve been using this for years to learn how to pronounce things!

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    G as in gif

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    PNG is better

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      And it’s @[email protected] with a steel chair!

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    This was only a controversy because GIFs were falling out of favour and the format’s creator decided to stir up shit.

    Reminds me of the stuff with Harry Potter. “Oh wait Hermione is Black, Dumbledore is gay, oh and trans women aren’t real women.” It’s just to get people talking about something that has run its course… and oh look, a new Harry Potter series coming to HBO. Because it works.

    The actual pronunciation of GIF doesn’t matter. We say GIF with a hard G because the G stands for Graphics and that has a hard G. Some say it with a soft G because that makes it sound like Jif and they like peanut butter…? I guess? I doubt it’s because someone said that’s how it was meant to be pronounced. Honestly I think Jif sounds better, but that doesn’t mean it’s right. I prefer the English pronunciation of garage (rhymes with carriage) to the American (rhymes with barrage) but in the States I pronounce it the American way because I want to be understood… not because it sounds better. I could give a fuck how something sounds; language is about communication. And if you’re saying “Jif,” we still know what you mean, but we think less of you for either not knowing better, or are just pedantic — exactly how I expect to be received if I pronounce “garage” like I think it’s meant to be said.

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      and trans women aren’t real women

      That wasn’t to stir up controversy, that’s just Rowling being a piece of shit. She regularly supports groups aiming to strip rights from people and has openly stated that any money from Harry Potter is a direct endorsement of her abhorrent views. The only ethical move is to boycott anything related to the franchise.

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        Yeah, I get that, I think she’s just vocal to stir up controversy and it’s working. Totally agree she’s a piece of shit!

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      We say GIF with a hard G because the G stands for Graphics

      I pronounce it that way because its gift minus the t. “Graphics” has nothing to do with it, since I don’t pronounce JPEG as Jay-pheg.

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      Some say it with a soft G because that makes it sound like Jif and they like peanut butter…? I guess? I doubt it’s because someone said that’s how it was meant to be pronounced.

      Thats a silly thing to doubt, when the creator said that’s how he intended it. I also often say it the right way just to irritate people who sound as insufferable about it as you, though.

      And Rowling is clearly leaning a lot harder into TERFdom than just wanting to stay “relevant.” Don’t minimize the pain and suffering she causes with her bigotry like that.

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        we still know what you mean, but we think less of you for either not knowing better, or are just pedantic

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        I also often say it the right way just to irritate people who sound as insufferable about it as you, though.

        Irony is dead.

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          😜

    • rustydrd@sh.itjust.worksOP
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      “The ga-RAH-ge! Oh lah-dee dah, Mr. Frenchman.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhbJnlIvfyc

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      I don’t disagree with you about the meat of your comment, but holy hell do I hate the English pronunciation of “garage.” Different strokes for different folks!

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      I read the word gif online MANY times before ever hearing any soul pronounce it. In my head it just makes so much more sense as a soft J. No one is choosing to pronounce it with a soft J because of peanut butter, that’s fucking dumb.

      You make it sound like hard G is “correct”. There’s no correct. It’s the same as every other English word that has several different correct pronunciations.

      Get off your high horse and stop being a complete asshole. Just let people pronounce things how they want, everyone knows what they are saying. You know, the entire point of a language.

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        Oh look, an Internet bully!

        See, nobody cares.

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      This was only a controversy because GIFs were falling out of favour

      They were never falling out of favour, and there’s not a single human being out there using WebP, only Google and bots touch that format.

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        Okay, honest question: how much preference do people really put into formats?

        Because I’ve dealt with webp… I don’t like it, but if I can open it in XnView and convert it to JPEG I’m good. Like my iPhone takes pictures in HEIC and if I send them raw to my wife’s Galaxy phone, it doesn’t open them, but if I convert them to JPEG (Telegram has this option, it’s what we use for rich-text messaging), it’s fine.

        I don’t like proprietary formats, but I don’t hate them if I can convert them, or better yet use them. Like I can read and write Microsoft 365 docx and the similar formats for Excel and Powerpoint in Pages, Numbers, and Keynote on my Mac. It’s not a problem. PDF can be an issue with Adobe trying to fleece users into paying to type in it, but open it in Firefox and you can type in it just fine. We shouldn’t even have anything by Adobe installed at work but we do. I’m not IT but I’m getting sick of teaching people how to open PDFs in Firefox instead of Acrobat so they can edit the bloody things. All our forms are PDF and I can edit/save them just fine but Acrobat won’t. So I set Firefox as the default but updates change it back.

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    Every day we stray further from Jod

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      Uh, excuse me, “GOD” is actually an acronym for “Great Omniscient Deity”, so it’s actually pronounced /'paɪnæpl/.

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        I can’t read IPA, but choose to believe that’s pronounced ‘pineapple’

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          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/English

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