Now’s the time when you see who the real allies are. The corporations were using the gay community for marketing.
This has always been the case with corporations. They operate for profit and nothing else.
If supporting social causes seems like a way to generate more profit, they do it. If it doesn’t, they don’t.
Corporations are not moral or ethical entities. They exist to generate money. Period. Anything suggesting the contrary is a lie designed to make more money.
Oh no, not the corporations. And here we thought they were ride or die and would always have the backs of the LGBTQ community!
Fuck 'em. Who wants or needs them? Queer people are not an “investment.”
I’m not lesbian, gay, bisexual, trans, or questioning, but I’ve been to Pride events in San Francisco, and a few other cities, because they’re fun and inspiring and subversive! Pre-corporate, Pride was about announcing yourself and being yourself, and I don’t know what the heck Comcast or Anheuser-Busch adds to that, beyond muddying the event by making it about cable TV or beer or something. My straight gut says, going without corporate sponsorships will make the parades and parties more fun.
Hold pride in the middle of nowhere to save money. Call it “Hot Human”. The hookup spot is in the mud pit behind the bushes
Change the name from pride to rage, and protest against gay rights and you’ll probably get funding and no straw in your way
Boy wait untl you hear how Pride day got started.
By protesting against gay rights?
I misread your comment but it started as a riot.
Rename pride to the stonewall parade
Tbf there was a typo there that obfuscated things a bit.
Maybe we should have people dying of AIDS on the streets so we can all learn while singing the Bohemian Rhapsody while dancing like Michael Jackson.
The orange fat scarecrow would do that. Over the weekend he personally let Israel bomb Gaza again and Iran the hothies. According to the news which I’m totally misrepresenting and misremembering… A bunch of kids died there. If I had anything to do with something like that, I’d be crying and I would quit. But not orange man. That guy keeps doubling down. How about a bunch of twin babies and their moms? Eh Mr Orange? Is that enough murder?
I’ve been to Pride events outside of the US and not a fucking corporate sponsor in sight with their goofy gayed-out logos and they were awesome. Fun, informative, inclusive and free. We can celebrate all of these “inclusive” events by not buying a single “corporate” product for the whole month, starting with those that used to show support.
I can confirm that. I live in France, and Pride in my (quite small) town doesn’t have a single private sponsor. It’s all organized by a non profit organization, gathering the various local LGBTQIA+ associations, and associations for STI prevention, human rights activists, feminists and so on.
Before the procession starts, there’s a small fair in a public park with (free) stands for all these associations, and stands where goodies are sold to finance the event.
I think now is a great time to separate pride events from these corporate scum. They never have been and will never be allies, just opportunists who would just as willingly burn parades to the ground if it maximizes profit. The capitalist machine will never be your friend.
Straight ally checking in. Started growing my own food last year, mainly as a hobby to keep me from doom scrolling so much. But I really like this idea and am going to try not buying anything but gas the entire month.
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What does gay sound like?
Trying to use it as an insult is not very cash money of you.
Lets wait and see if he sticks the hose up his ass when he buys gas.
Got any tips?
Yeah, don’t have cats.
But I really like this idea and am going to try not buying anything but gas the entire month.
Get a bicycle and quit making exceptions.
Or walk!
Some people work with their vehicle.
K?
Pride in Ottawa, Canada this year was pretty much corporate-less because the organisers publicly came out in support of Palestine and said they’d only accept companies on the right side of history in the parade
Corporations being corporations, most dropped out since they always have to be 100% safe on any statements of support obviously. It was actually so much better without them though.
I want to go to Pride in Amsterdam. The parade is a boat parade along the canals.
My take: business interests do not in the main care about Pride or DEI. They care about PR.
Pride is a resistance not a party! Get back to our roots. We don’t need another US Bank float.
I get it, but it would be great if we could’ve kept it as a party. The community has already fought so much. The floats were basically the only way some people understood that LGBT+ was mainstream and accepted now. Rainbow capitalism is bad, obviously, but it’s still devastating to see even that get taken away. Our roots should never have had to be resistance and it’s sad to see it’s come back to that. Same with several other communities. Having struggle be thrust upon you just by virtue of who you are is terrible for mental and physical health. I was looking forward to seeing the next generation thrive. I don’t want to see them in the trenches. I want them to party. I want them to celebrate. I want job fairs at pride to be full of the worst Fortune 500 companies desperately trying to recruit from the community. I want them to live normal lives where they’re not othered just for being and pride had evolved into a celebration of that.
I want to see big brick as a sponcer.
Their float can just be a lowboy loaded with bricks and someone handing out.
Or Luigi’s Guillotines LLC
Brother i’m with ya, but I’ve also met too many right leaning LGBTQ+ and it breaks my fuckin heart
Fucking cowards and class traitors. Palm Springs gays need to fuck off!
All I want in this life is a working class homo to follow me home and stay.
Hi, I’m a working class homo far leftist.
Am i witness to a lemmy match making moment grabs kleenex
I’m married though. But I’ll see y’all in the LGBTQ+ camps to fight during the revolution.
This how it is. It always has been like that. This is one of the things that helped the right gain power.
As someone that is gay, it’s been something that pisses me off too. They use LGBT culture. It’s like they market the LGBT stereotypes. I think that a lot of the “normal” naive Republicans saw this as well and didn’t understand when they voted for anti dei it actually meant this Nazi esque stuff going on now. I think they actually just wanted to stop the marketing and abuse of LGBT culture by shitty businesses.
LGBT culture was basically sold out the same way hip-hop culture was. Once they can make money off it the culture gets raped.
It’s like people only do things because they get paid, and that’s just really sad
But yeah, our corporate oligarchs and the billionaire class are evil manipulative money-grubbing leeches and we’ve let them run unchecked for way too long.
its called rainbow capitalism, a form of virtue signalling, and also performative politics.
No, many of them want this stuff. People supporting MAGA at this stage don’t care.
Yeah I see that. I didn’t really know how to articulate a percentage or anything. But I do think some people were just really naive.
I would agree if this was the 2016 election we were talking about. But we saw how his first term went, and this is the same but dialed up to 11.
which is the current flavor of politics at the moment, one moment things like shows and movies VIRTUE signal minorities, the next they virtue signal for snowflake Christians.
in 20 years there will not be a Donald Trump. there may or may not be a united states. but there will absolutely be gays and trans people.
Not much is going to change if Trump dies… It might even get worse.
I think it would. None of these other guys have the charisma to hold together his movement. You have to have a personality to maintain a cult of personality.
Christ, you’d think
I think it would get worse. Vance and Johnson are huge pieces of shit.
Not necessarily, though.
LGBT will exist as long as humans exist.
Not necessarily
there will absolutely be gays and trans people.
True, homosexuality isn’t going away. However, while I would rate it as quite unlikely, I could imagine a world where sodomy laws returned, social norms changed, and homosexuality became a taboo again. There have been places and times in human history where the acceptability of homosexuality have varied quite a bit. I don’t think that social norms on homosexuality are really tightly linked to technology or something where there’s a clear “arrow” driving in one direction over time.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_homosexuality
Societal attitudes towards same-sex relationships have varied over time and place. Attitudes to male homosexuality have varied from requiring males to engage in same-sex relationships to casual integration, through acceptance, to seeing the practice as a minor sin, repressing it through law enforcement and judicial mechanisms, and to proscribing it under penalty of death. In addition, it has varied as to whether any negative attitudes towards men who have sex with men have extended to all participants, as has been common in Abrahamic religions, or only to passive (penetrated) participants, as was common in Ancient Greece and Ancient Rome. Female homosexuality has historically been given less acknowledgment, explicit acceptance, and opposition.
Homosexuality was generally accepted in many ancient and medieval eastern cultures such as those influenced by Buddhism, Hinduism, and Taoism.[1][2] Homophobia in the eastern world is often discussed in the context of being an import from the western world,[3][4] with some contending that definitions of “progress” on homosexuality (e.g. LGBT rights) as being Western-centric.[5]
I mean, that’s a patchwork at any point in time, and one that hasn’t changed in a single direction over time.
Gays will be around till Jesus returns.
For the second cuming?
you misunderstand. i will make there be gays myself
That’s the spirit!
Grinder goes wild around republican party conferences but how many of them are out? They’re definitely going to try to return the country to repression because a lot of them already are.
That is beautiful.
Never forget that Pride started as a riot.
including Comcast, Anheuser-Busch, Diageo, and La Crema, which is owned by Jackson Family Wines.
Media has to just name names going forward, all of them. This planet needs to know what evil to avoid. Good this article did, although I wonder who they might have omitted.
Unfortunately for Comcast they’re so dog shit they don’t need to be named haha. Everyone knows how awful they are.
The way all these companies have ditched gay rights really clarifies how much of an empty gesture the month of rainbow banners was (and how much of an empty gesture this probably is). But I think I liked it better when they did an empty gesture in support of gay rights rather than against them
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Kohls is too. They kept the policies but changed the title of the DEI program to hide from conservatives.
Rainbow capitalism.
kinda wanna make a pride float with all the banners of companies that abandoned pride this year
Oh, that’s a good one.
But I think I liked it better when they did an empty gesture in support of gay rights rather than against them
Just one of those things. Means nothing about the companies themselves, but means everything about where society in general is at.
It seems short sighted because the rest of the west isn’t nearly as bad as the USA. Do they really think the American right wing population is THAT worth pandering to that they’d give up their reputation to everyone else?
Maybe now they can put up swastikas as an empty gesture toward president musk
The one time I went to Pride I was disappointed with how it was basically a bunch of corporate advertisements. I’d be happy to go again if the tone changes.
Corporations are everyone’s enemy.
Basically. My friends who always made pretty elaborate costumes for Pride stopped going because it was 90% ads and garbage swag.
We’ll see how many of those corporations switch their logos come June.
The one time I went to Pride I was disappointed with how it was basically a bunch of corporate advertisements.
If you’re selling a product aimed at a gay crowd, aside from profile-driven, targeted online advertising, how many better venues are you going to have to promote your stuff?
Most Pride events that I think that I’ve seen images of are done in public areas in cities — kind of the point of them — and so whoever wants can do whatever.
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I don’t think I’ve seen ads at Burning Man. Might be that they have restrictions on them.
kagis
Yup.
https://survival.burningman.org/rules-and-regulations/commerce-concessions/
Logos & branding
Black Rock City is a decommodified zone where branding is not welcome. Advertising? Hell no. Launching a product? Not in Black Rock City. Burning Man is not a place to promote your business, website, or product.
It’d be possible to go organize something like that in a controlled environment, I think. But if the point of a Pride parade is to increase visibility among the wider population, going to such a controlled environment seems like it’d be kind of counterproductive.
It’s ironic that Burning Man is forced to use the tools of commodification to “protect its brand” against commodification.
If the products were actually aimed at a gay crowd, I’d be a little more okay with that. But the main funders were T-Mobile and Alaska Airlines.
The president himself couldn’t save Tesla stock. The president doesn’t have the power that the people do.
These companies are on the wrong fucking side.
Not from where they’re sitting. We have to make this a true statement through collective action. Lemmy, and other decentralized forms of communication, will likely need to play a central role in organizing those actions. They’re not going to let us work towards removing their power using the platforms they control.
