I’m my experience it’s about a ten to one ratio of people who shit on vegans because they “never shut up about it” vs vegans who actually never shut up about it. So a vegan wanted to show she could climb Mt Everest. She did it, then she died of acute altitude sickness during the descent, something completely unrelated to her diet. Her husband, also vegan, lived. She became one of hundreds of people who have died in that climb, all of whom wanted to prove they could do it. Just let people live their life how they want to. Heaping scorn on someone who died trying to prove themselves isn’t cool.
It’s like right wingers always claiming that gay /trans people are “shoving it down their throat” because they make TV shows for gay people.
Like for one, no they aren’t. And two, that’s interesting phrasing you’ve chosen.
I’m a vegan and I am annoying about it. Like, I’d hope if you sincerely believe in some cause you will be outspoken about it
I’m my experience it’s about a ten to one ratio of people who shit on vegans because they “never shut up about it” vs vegans who actually never shut up about it.
A true testament to how many people they annoy.
Just let people live their life how they want to
I’d rather have them not climb the damn mountain though. It’s become a sort of tourist trap -thing (literally), there’s people selling commercial climbings and all. It’s extremely wasteful and them littering the place with all their trash (like extra oxygen tanks) and then with their corpses is disgusting and kind of insulting considering Sagarmatha has some religious significance to locals as well
There are a lot of vegans and vegetarians who don’t make it their raison d’etre, so I’m sure there have been some who climbed Everest in the past, even if we don’t know about it.
Sir, this is a shitpost.
Of course it’s a joke but jokes normalize ideas. I would never attack it but having a discussion about the underlying message is harmless.
I’d like to have the kids menu, please… Err what?
Her husband, also a vegan, did it.
So they have a 50% success rate. Pretty decent.
Is he now eating meat?
Not true. This woman was the first vegetarian to climb this mountain located in Nepal and Tibet.
we shouldn’t make fun of people dying just because they’re vegan. That’s tastelsss.
I thought vegans liked tasteless?
That’s the joke, man.
I get the joke, but it’s kind of a shitty joke.
“Haha, you’ve decided morals are more important than flavour”
I mean, yeah. It’s an ethical trade-off?
“Haha, you donated $1 to pay for mosquito nets in third world countries. You’ve decided lives are more important than money”
mosquito nets in third world countries
oooohhh…yeah…about those…
turns out the mosquito nets are devastating local fish populations, because people use them to fish, since they get them as a finished product instead of having to knit nets themselves. and starvation being a bigger immediate threat, they prioritize that over malaria.
the nets are also laced with toxic chemicals (against the mosquitoes), which are extremely toxic to fish.
they also have much smaller holes, so they catch the young offspring as well, leading to rapid depletion of stocks.
so, yeah…good idea in theory, but didn’t turn out so great…
It’s a good idea on its own, but the overall issues are more complex and nuanced. Maybe sending some non-toxic fishing nets could help? (Hopefully they’ve thought of this already)
Bro, its a joke. It works too because its clever and subtle. Its meant to make people laugh, not spawn a debate on vegan politics.
I will say, as a vegan, I thought it was a fantastic joke.
Really? Well don’t I have tofu on my face…
Your names lies, that is… Good :)
You may pass.
i want you to know how happy I am that you bring your snafus to the lemmyverse. /gen
🫡
Lol this is great
Chad looks like orange Epstein
Yo why does the “Chad” in this meme look like Jeffrey Epstein?
I feel like the third panel really captures the essence “I am angry about everything and you’ve shown me something I don’t like, which I guess can exist as long as it hides in the shadows away from my righteous gaze, therefore you are SHOVING it down my THROAT and I am morally justified in attacking those people until they go away”
Reductio ad absurdum
here’s a fun activity: define it
not because I don’t know, but because it’s pretty clear to anyone who’s written a few mathematical proofs that you don’t know
I don’t understand the people that make fun of vegans because they “don’t stop talking about it” and then don’t stop talking about how they hate AI and would never use it. You guys are AI vegans, you should understand the passion
edit: before dumbs come at me, I’m not at all supporting AI I’m just comparing the passion os subjects
I’ve said this before, but “AI vegan” is a pretty odd term. It’d imply that using AI is somehow a default, entrenched, normalised thing. That not using AI is going against the status quo.
This makes as much sense as calling Linux users “Windows vegans”. Go on. Go say that to some Linux user’s face, I’m waiting.
You think “AI” isn’t the default, normalised thing?
People rarely click on links in search anymore, they’re happy to use the AI summary, iPhones have small LLM models on them, people use it to write reports, others use it to read those reports. Companies implement policy to mandate AI usage even if it’s objectively worse.
I used to be pretty happy with the little extracts provided under the links in the search results.
Once upon a time, users were united in their hatred of Windows and Microsoft. We worked together, played together, wrote terrible scripts together. But Apple released the iPod and everything changed. Now they’re just another slimy mega corp, other OSs are ignored and we’ve got to love Linux or love a distro. Can’t we just all just unite in our utter loathing again!?
I consider “AI Vegan” as “AI models trained only on public domain works.”
Huh. Apparently a few of them exist. TIL.
I didnt know that either but it makes sense. I had raised this as an “ethical alternative” in the early days before I knew about the environmental impact.
AI vegan. That’s brilliant.
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year for decades, should have been around 6000 in total as of 2016.
Considering the mountain is in a part of the world where significant parts of the population are de-facto vegans without identifying as such, I highly doubt that no one among the 6k people before them was living on a plant based diet
Yeah and like half of the climbers I know are vegan or at least vegetarian. There is a huge overlap in those groups.
Also the Sherpas serve oatmeal to the climbers anyways
Half of India is vegan
Vegetarian. They put butter in everything.
Ghee, specifically. Although there are plenty of vegan substitutes
can you support this?
Their statement is probably incorrect. This says that 39% of India’s population is “vegetarian” (with the definition left to the respondent): https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2021/07/08/eight-in-ten-indians-limit-meat-in-their-diets-and-four-in-ten-consider-themselves-vegetarian/
I see claims that 9% of the population is vegan, but can’t find the source of that figure (on brief examination).
Four in ten people in India follow either a vegetarian or a vegan diet, according to data by a Statista Consumer Insights survey. In all other countries polled, the figure is far lower, ranging between just five percent in Mexico and 11 percent in South Africa. In the United States, six percent of respondents said that they were vegetarian and four percent said that they were vegan.
They all died.
There is no way they were the first vegans in 2016. There have been 100+ ascents per year
After her death a vegan among them would have spoken out. Could be that they all tried Yak butter and can’t claim the title anymore.
that joke is 1000 more annoying then vegans atp
I have repurposed it for Trump supporters, who ABSOLUTELY NEVER shut the fuck up about being Trump supporters and also are a genuine menace to others where vegans really are not.
atp
- Association of Tennis Professionals
- Adenosine Triphosphate
- Advanced Threat Protection
- Access to Patients
- Adult Treatment Panel
- Available To Promise
- Area to Protect
- Airline Transport Pilot
- Army Techniques Publication
- Ambient Temperature and Pressure
- Automatic Train Protection
- Ask the Professor
- Army Training Program
- Acceptance Test Procedure
- Authorized to Proceed
- Australian Technology Park
- Advanced Travel Partner
- Antitachycardia Pacing
- All Tomorrow’s Parties
- Authorization to Proceed
- Alternative Transients Program
- Advanced Technology Program
- Automated Theorem Proving
- After Tax Profit
- ⁝
Thank you, and the ‘why’ reply makes it more special
Stop using acronyms… at least establish the acronym first. If your comment is too short to establish the acronym, don’t bother using it.
IT’S CC
(common courtesy)
why
This is so old that you’re just making fun of vegans.
and…?
haha she was a vegan, exceptional content, true comedy. Will they ever shut up about being vegan? haha I’m so funny
Thank god she wasn’t also an atheist and a lawyer or we’d never get a word in!
Wanna bet she did CrossFit to prepare?
The true body killer
She definitely wasn’t an Arch Linux user.
or a linux user
I find people who keep making cracks like that far more tedious, unoriginal and unpleasant than any of the groups you just listed.
If this is the same story I’m thinking of, she and her partner wanted to be the first vegans to climb to the top, to show the world that vegans can do it. Coincidentally, another vegan actually did it like 1-2 days before their attempt.
Ah, I sincerely hope someone told her during her last dying breaths that she wasn’t the first vegan to climb Mount-Whatever and therefore she didn’t actually need to do it.
I sincerely hope that you won’t get the same amount of cruelty in live that you wish upon others in death.
Please eat some makeup.
You seem ugly on the inside.
Downvotes pair delightfully with the actual negative karma your post is generating for your spirit. Grow the fuck up.
I used to own an ice cream shop, and we had vegan ice cream, and a pretty good following for it. I got so I could recognize them as they were walking from their car.
One quiet day, I saw this older couple start getting out of their car, and I said to my assistant “They’re vegan.” She asked how I knew, and I said “Just look at them, they’re obviously vegan.” She said “But they’re so old.” “You’ll see,” I said.
They walked in, and the first thing the old guy said was “We hear you have vegan ice cream, we’re vegans!” and I could sense my assistant’s head swivel to look at me in my peripheral vision.
As I made his ice cream, he went on to tell me how his wife makes vegan steaks so good, I wouldn’t be able to tell the difference. Yes, I could.
The secret is adding beef to the vegan steak.
Cool, I’ll take mine minus the vegan.
to be fair, an entire industry and infrastructure popped up in everest to make climbing it much easier for a fee.
so pampered tourists can say they conquered the tallest mountain, when the locals were the ones to do most of the work.
meaning climbing the everest isn’t quite the achievement it used to be.
bro vegans are so dumb they’re depriving themselves of key nutrients and become weak and constantly tired.
that’s wrong, let me prove it to you by climbing the fucking everest
bro vegans are so annoying and why won’t they shut the fuck up about it
the carnist intellectuals have come out in force I see
It’s crazy how mad people get every time a Vegan exists
It really challenges a certain type of persons ego. I don’t really get it.
weirdly defensive too, your conscience nagging again bud 🤔
The problem are not the vegans. The problem is that those people have to tell everyone that the are vegans and try to “sell” to others. Just be a vegan and don’t bother other people with it.
people have to tell everyone that the are vegans
I never see these people IRL.
But they must be deeply traumatizing, because I see people who complain about them everywhere.
Vocal minority explains it.
Then you are lucky.
bot account 🤨
first interaction by account 🤨Don’t have to really, our existence is already deeply upsetting lol. But even if, how are you going to change society if you keep it to yourself
For every one person who tells me they’re vegan about 10 brag they’re not
People are proud of who they are, I guess.
Vegans call themselves vegans and they get to call others “carnists”? I’ve been hearing them calling others “meateaters” too. It’s so reductive of people who don’t agree with their ideas.
Huh? What would you call someone who cares about animal exploitation, and what should we call those that don’t?
I don’t go over my day calling people names. It’s not hard for me to call them as they want them to be called, and if I don’t know that, they are just people like me.
Carnist is a description of someone who has a meat-inclusive diet, other descriptions of people by what they can or cannot eat are e.g. vegan, lactose intolerant, celiac… It’s not a “name” you call someone, it’s a description of someone using a certain aspect of them relevant to the discussion.
A “name”, as in, something used to insult would be e.g. corpsemuncher, bloodmouth, cheesebreth &c.
It’s used as a pejorative. It’s disingenuous to pretend otherwise.
I mean in the same way as “terf” I guess
So, some nonvegan people?
Edit: Also, that wasn’t the point. Vegans call themselves vegans, nobody is asking them to call others by any name, proper or improper, in vegans’ point of view.
The point behind not using “nonvegan” is that it frames carnists as "the normal"s and the “vegans” as the one who have “something special” going on. This is true with celiac and nonceliac, lactose intolerant and not lactose intolerant. But we argue that veganism, i.e. not killing if unnecessary, is the normal thing to do. That the only reason it doesn’t seem that way is because it got normalized through repetition and how widespread it is.
Nobody is asking to stop the torture of dairy cows &c. other than vegans either so I don’t understand why you think the point in your edit matters.The point in demonstrating for societal change is precisely doing stuff others aren’t asking for.
I guess a vegan would see the point in that. Vegans are normal in my book, as in they are people. If they didn’t call themselves vegans, I wouldn’t call them any particular way as a noun. If I needed to describe them, I’d say, “they are people who only eat vegetables”.
I get it, though, it’s a discourse battle derived from their moral views and expected ethics. It’s just they don’t come across as very approachable.
another user said it’s like how christians call non-believers sinners. that makes sense to me.
The actual term is secular. The ones using sinner are the vegans of the Christian world.
So you’re saying the ones who call nonchristians “sinners” are correct?
Most people are apathetic, and a chunk of those are due to ignorance. Calling them carnists likely isn’t helping the cause at all.
I think her dying trying is an important part of the point here.
I don’t agree with it. I’m sure there’s a more nuanced cause of death, but that’s between step 2 and 3.
Right I went with the most charitable reading.
lol stupid vegan dies because we were right about veganism causing malnutrition get owned
is of course the interpretation that seems the most obvious
This is a shotpost community. I’m not entirely sure I understand your surprise.
I’m not sure what you’re trying to say here, you don’t want me to take this “so serious” everyone here is just pretending to be a stereotypical carnist? I’m not surprised at all, why would I be, it’s like this every time a vegan is mentioned.
I’m not sure either. If it’s everyone, maybe the vegan is the issue. 🤷
Huh? What vegan is causing everyone here to act like a stereotype? The one who climbed everest, or one of the vegans who started commenting after all these carnists had made all the canon jokes already
To be fair, you did start with namecalling. Whether or not the name was malicious the intent clearly is. Perhaps interact with less hate in your heart?
Huh? You sure you got the time line right? Because I’m commenting about the “carnist intellectuals ITT” after they already went off with the standardized DIN-ISO-VegAn-Jokes A1-A4
Well. She did shut the fuck up about it.
Kindest carnist
Only kind of. I am all for veganism if I could afford it. Plus I am more impressed with thr sherpas making this their nob in spite of the obnoxious tourists.
The sherpas don’t have that much choice what with needing money to survive and the nepalese economy being what it is.
I normally am annoyed by shitting on vegans but somehow this one was perfect and actually made me laugh
Probably because nobody normal took “vegans are weak” thing that seriously.
She died trying to prove the 12 year olds online wrong, and now her death fuels their memes.
It’s the “Completely avoidable tragedy” type of humour.
