Yes, I’ll just trust the AI to help me fuck around with grid voltage levels.
With google search results becoming so poor, I guess I need to look into kagi or duck-duck. Pain in my dick, motherless goatfucking, horsehit-happy asshole, corporate varmints gotta fuck it all up for more profit. I’m tired, yo.
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when will they be held liable for this shit?
Pain in my dick, motherless goatfucking, horsehit-happy asshole, corporate varmints
Off topic, but that’s a nice spattering of invective you got there, OP. Well done. I genuinely appreciate a well-crafted compound insult.
I asked Andi at least it suggest to contrast it by yourself in the mencioned sources after the summary
Rigol DS1202Z-E Maximum Input Voltage
The Rigol DS1202Z-E has a maximum input voltage of ±400 V (DC + peak AC) at the 1 MΩ input impedance setting, according to the EEVblog forum, which references the official Rigol performance verification procedure manual.
Note that this is a DC-plus-peak rating. At higher frequencies, input voltage limits typically derate, so the ±400 V figure applies at low frequencies. The EEVblog thread specifically discusses this frequency derating question, making it the most relevant source for anyone probing near the limits.
The DS1202Z-E is a 200 MHz, 2-channel oscilloscope on Rigol’s DS1000Z UltraVision platform, per Rigol NA. It includes deep memory, serial decode, and FFT.
For the full derating curve and exact specs at higher frequencies, the EEVblog forum thread is the best starting point, though the site was returning a CAPTCHA at time of search. Consulting the official Rigol DS1202Z-E datasheet or performance verification manual directly will give the authoritative derating table.
Sources: EEVblog Forum, Rigol NA
Duckduck with ai turned off is pretty decent.
IronFox has a DuckDuckGo (No AI) mode.
noai.duck.com You can use it in any browser
Yes, let me ask the computer voices about physical reality. Don’t use AI. If you’re going to anyway, leave it to the only domain it can interact with. It doesn’t know shit.
One might think the ‘sentient’ electricity could know something about electricity.
Thats like expecting humans to know how blood works
Thats like expecting humans to know how blood works
Ah, but I’ve mastered knowledge of the various humors!
Of course! Why not?! Just tell people information that could KILL THEM! I am sure that has not happened before… right guys? Right? RIGHT?! AI is out of control and needs to be regulated. How many people have destroyed their stuff or died trusting AI? G-D only knows… oh my.
The AI CEOs should be forced to follow some dangerous procedure exactly as explained by their shit planet-killing product live for all to see. If they’re confident this is the future, they should set the example.
I would rather have them held accountable in the same way that any news outlet or publisher would be held accountable for publishing false information that could have deadly consequences.
It’s only a matter of time before a fifth-grader follows some inane advice because it was the first result from Google and is irreversibly maimed because of it.
Where are all the Helen Lovejoy types when we can actually use them?
It’s only a matter of time before a fifth-grader follows some inane advice because it was the first result from Google and is irreversibly maimed because of it.
https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/06/us/openai-chatgpt-suicide-lawsuit-invs-vis
I think we’re already there in many aspects
That fucking banchode.
forget about just being outright wrong all the fucking time, you can ask this piece of shit a very simple yes/no question and it will change its answer constantly when you do so much as refresh the page. its actually baffling to me. duckduckgo has search ai, and somehow theirs works fine enough %90 of the time and won’t change its answer with each page refresh. DDG is doing search ai better than Google, the third biggest company in the world who may as well own the internet, AND YOU CAN JUST TURN THE DDG AI OFF. Big tech are so embarrassingly incompetent.
Just switch your search engine already.
time and won’t change its answer with each page refresh.
Maybe it just recalls the answer for at least a few hours?
Seems like a good way to improve precision without improving accuracy.
I can vouch for Kagi, although I wouldn’t say their AI is that much better. But if you find like 5 other friends the family plan is worth it.
How does kagi define “family”? Like netflix?
My father just ruined some PCB while soldering because Gemini told him what to do.
I’m sure there’s many more cases that are worse and we simply do not know about.
The days when YouTube had actual people in their cluttered garages, basements, and driveways showing you how to fix shit was good. Between the algorithm fucking it over and AI giving wrong info, we’re likely going to win some Darwin awards en masse, around the house.
I’ve tried it. It’s good for plucking out game solutions (low risk), and finding the right forum for That Linux Workaround. Or just parroting Wiki.
Catch it in a wrong answer and it will answer just as confidently, agreeing that it was wrong. And yet.
And we’re destroying homes and the life equity of working class for this.
There are still good YT channels. Learn Linux TV is excellent, as is Sabine Hossenfelder, Anton Petrov, Techmoan, and Louis Rossmann.
Yes, but they’re harder to find organically, since the search function seems to be set up to barf out the top 10 most trafficked. For example, I’ve trained my algorithm to never give me 731 Woodworking (looks like a QVC ad, every time, no woodworking), but if I search for new woodworking, that’s what I get, a long list of mostly 731 woodworking.
And, for whatever reason, people love watching re-rolled clips (the poster didn’t create) of whatever with someone making expressions and reacting to it. Worst content ever, and yet.
To be fair YouTube was full of bullshit DIY videos too. You used to be able to see which ones got lots of downvotes for being bad…but nah, let’s not show that to people anymore
A species-level Darwin award is the solution to the Fermi Paradox.
I would not trust this result with my Rigol. Or my fingers.
Scopes needed to be able to deal with kV levels back in the time of tube TVs, but they used different probes for that, IIRC. The highest voltage level I have ever used on a scope were 48V.
The info in the screenshot actually souds correct for most rigols - still, not a trustworthy source of info. RTFM :)
Yes, I’ll just trust the AI to help me fuck around with grid voltage levels.
I mean, if you do… you kinda deserve what comes to you.
no.
these things are sold to us as magical black boxes of universal knowledge. most people don’t know how they work.
blame the ai companies, not the people who fall prey to their lies. why does this have to be said. come on.
Can we stop treating people as mentally challenged toddlers? When AI started, I would have agreed with you about this. But if today you still use any AI and trust what it says, after all we have seen it does, it’s on you.
Am I saying that AI companies are not to blame? No. I think AI companies are to blame for the shitty product they are delivering. But let’s not take any personal responsibility of people. If you plug a fork in an outlet and shock yourself to death, there’s nobody to blame but yourself for being dumb. And this is the same.
If you plug a fork in an outlet and shock yourself to death, there’s nobody to blame but yourself for being dumb.
And yet, we still design outlets in ways that make that exact kind of thing as hard as possible. Because there will always be kids who have no idea what they’re doing. Because there will always be old people unfamiliar with the technology that “everyone” should know how to use by now. Because accidents happen.
Can we stop treating people as mentally challenged toddlers?
Yes, but let’s wait until the lead-poisoned generation have been cared for first. And also until those harmed by whatever the brainworm-in-chief FDA is up to have been cared for. After that, let’s expect everyone to be able to think things through.
This assumes people know how AI works, and that’s not common knowledge.
Dude, like a handful of people have any idea how it works, it was completely a black box until recently when they started deciphering how it “thinks” before outputting in any given language. And before anyone argues, yes, researchers have actually started to assess how it processes stuff now, they’ve recorded the binary processing that wasn’t language based and upon suspecting they found the processing akin to what we’d call thinking for ai, they saved the streams, presented it to other ai in droves and asked them to interpret it independently of the other system that manufactured it, and indeed it matched up with the processing of requests, but was not in any human language, it’s indeed machine code, but not like Fortran or cobal or hexadecimal codes that we are used to dealing with, it has its own language. So no one has a library or Rosetta Stone yet to interpret this, and as of now you have to “trust” other AI to tell you what it means. Which obviously isn’t a good idea at all.
Edit: the paper since some of y’all don’t believe it, and frankly I don’t blame you. It’s new research. "Do Sparse Autoencoders Capture Concept Manifolds?” https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.28119
You have no idea what you’re talking about and you’d feel a lot better if you could just accept that. This story you are telling is absolutely nonsense fantasy, stitched together from a bunch of different actual things to create a narrative that tells a completely untrue and fantastical story
Wrong. Here’s one of the papers on the research. “Do Sparse Autoencoders Capture Concept Manifolds?”
https://arxiv.org/abs/2604.28119
and a video on the paper
Your writing shows that you have no idea how to interpret this paper at all. You clearly have no historical concept of the development of machine learning, neural networks, and the fundamentals of the domain. You are trying to read a cutting edge paper that relies heavily on the reader having deep domain expertise. The video you linked is ALSO not for laypersons as it doesn’t actually explain the basics of the domain. You can’t just dive into the deep end of a pool without knowing how to swim and then tell everyone you were lost at sea.
This isn’t even what I meant by “how it works”. I mean that it’s basically a machine that outputs whatever next text that would be the most probabilistic given the previous text and input.
So the basics of how it works. Not exactly how it works.
Most people don’t know the basics of AI and how it works in that sense. They hear AI and think “I Robot” and think the computer is actually talking to them and giving them something that a “brain” has “reasoned” about, which is not the case.
You want to cite some sources because like a lot of things people say about AI this too sounds like bullshit?
- has already killed many
Kagi is great. I have realized that I prefer that I’m paying with my money instead of my personal information to use it.
And I was able to use their free tier pretty effectively for awhile, until I got to the point where I was consistently exceeding the free monthly searches. Plus I feel good supporting them.
I’m also a kagi user and I think the service they provide is good.
I would say that paying for a service cannot always save you. Any public company cannot deny 2 revenue streams and it doesn’t take long before they will take your money and sell your data.
You can pay Google for YouTube but they still harvest your data.
That’s a good qualification. Not all paid services are inherently good.
So far, Kagi seems to be. But remain suspicious!
Have a look at this project - Degoog.
I’m self-hosting mine but there are public instances as well. I find it to be pretty impressive and the lead developer seems like a super dude.
I self hosted it, too. Super easy to set up.
Right? It’s pretty customisable as well. It’s great!
