Wildly disrespectful to any artist that ever lived. I’m all up for sharing alternatives that are good/better towards actual artists. Still evaluating my choices, but meanwhile this seems like the only and rather easy signal the streaming community can give as to spread the word if they agree (next to stopping your own subscription). Context: https://techcrunch.com/2026/05/22/spotifys-ai-bet-more-of-everything-less-of-what-you-want/
Isn’t… literally anything but Spotify better? There are dozens of streaming services, many of them great, and websites to export your playlists.
I don’t understand why it’s so difficult to unsubscribe.
I just exported my playlists as csvs and have switched to VLC with downloaded music. It has playlists and works with both my Android Auto and my Cardo for my motorcycle helmet. Spotify has been cancelled.
If you don’t mind me asking, when I have tried using VLC with music, there seems to be like 1-3 seconds delay between songs which is a deal-breaker for me when I’m listening for whole albums. Is there a way to work around this, or do you just not have this issue at all?
I also have this, with videos too and on pc, android and ios…
Haven’t had the issue at all, though I’m using it on Android, not PC, so not sure if that makes a difference.
I use the SMplayer, do the same as VLC, but faster and easier (also FOSS)
SMplayer is not available for Android, which is where pretty much the entirety of my listening takes place (car or motorcycle).
Well, that is certainly a drawback.
You’d be surprised at how addicted the kids are to their brain rot. Look at how much hate YouTube gets, and yet- they’re more profitable than ever.
Stockholm Syndrome of the modern tech world. And it gets so much worse from here.
Because then I lose all my playlists
No you dont, every streamer from spotify to apple music to qobuz and deezer allow for a full import. I switched to apple music and it pulled everything.
It is a worse service though which says a lot, spotify does suck but AM has a terrible and boring UI and UX
My wife and I ditched streaming for just owning music through bandcamp or CD. We’ve exported her Spotify playlists. If anybody has a link to a tool for generating local playlists from exported Spotify JSONs (for tracks you own, and a list of tracks you need to complete them), I’m all ears.
I’d try to write one in PowerShell, only to lose interest halfway through the project, but I don’t have Spotify, sorry!
I actually prefer the Apple music interface. Easier to navigate, and their queuing system isn’t horrific. Having play next be different from add to queue is essential. Spotify’s “add to queue” feature playing what you add next instead of the album you started playing was infuriating.
In Spotify, add to queue adds to the end of the queue for me. But the queue is always ahead of whatever you were previously listening to. I prefer it to be this way, for me. The queue is the additional songs I want to listen to, ahead of the main thing ive selected, which I eventually want to return to.
When I want to listen to first this, then that, then that, etc., I “add to playlist” instead of add to queue.
Now, if I do have a queue already but I want to select a new song to jump to the front, I do have to go into the queue and move the song I want next to the next spot, so I’d appreciate a play next button also.
In apple music, does play next always become the next song, and pushes the other “play nexts” further back? And does add to queue add to the very end, or is the queue a special list in front of your main playback like in Spotify?
Yes exactly. Apple Music play next puts the song or album next always and add to queue to the end always. So the way you prefer is possible with play next, and how I prefer to queue after albums is possible with add to queue. It makes it much easier for DJing on the fly too when you find a song that would be perfect next. I missed this feature from Google Play Music for years while I used Spotify in its place once Google shut it down and folded into yt music.
It is still not too hard to DJ on the fly, but it does take a few more taps to move a song from the back of the queue to the top. IMO it encourages you to organize the play next queue every time you are adding a song though which is nice. A lot of times when I’m on aux I end up removing a bunch of songs from the queue because the vibe has changed since I added them, but if I leave it alone for awhile, it gets back to my playlist on its own.
I think in apple music I’d miss the ability to add to the end of the “play next” queue but ahead of the playlist, but I would like the play next button!
Oh interesting. Except I hate apple and never heard of the others
Qobuz is awesome, still growing though.
when i switched from spotify to Qobuz several months ago they gave me access to a third party playlist conversion site https://soundiiz.com/ with premium features free for the first month of my subscription. Conversion of playlists and liked songs was easy and done within minutes of signing up for Qobuz. I can’t recommend moving off spotify enough; Qobuz won my pick because how they pay artists (seemingly) the highest rate per stream.
Same, worked great!
However, a significant number of songs didn’t exist on Qobuz—including my favorite song at the time. Sadgeyea there’s still honestly some downsides to Qobuz, including:
- Artist profiles: lack of consistency on details like images, descriptions
- Generated recommendations: magazine articles and album reviews (sometimes) written by humans are top notch; the tradeoff is that recommendations based on specific playlists are often far less “close” musically and I often get random and unexpected auto plays; there is no “daily mix” or “similar artists” or good recommendations for adding new tracks to a longer playlist
- Library: across the many diverse genres I listen to, frequently newer releases are delayed on Qobuz. Older music library is outstanding, extremely few of my 10s of thousands of total tracks of jazz records were unavailable
there is no “daily mix”
Actually, there is, but it’s only visible on the mobile apps, and not on the website. It’s called “DailyQ” and there’s also a “WeeklyQ”. You can start it on your phone, and once it is your play queue, the web app should pick it up almost immediately.
It used to be on the web app too, but in some “minor” redesign it dropped out of the “For You” section, and I can’t even find it when I search from the browser app.
I’m also disappointed in the auto-play. Both YT Music and Tidal seemed to stay much more “on theme” and I could start from one album or artist’s radio and listen for several hours on auto-play. With Qobuz auto play, it’s usually migrated away from what I was wanting within 4 tracks.
My adjustment is to find “shows” like ASoT (A State of Trance) and ABGT (Above & Beyond: Group Therapy) and queue them up to get more than an album’s worth of songs without having to fiddle with a playlist. I wish FYH (Find Your Harmony) with Andrew Rayel was on Qobuz; I got really into that the last 2 months I was on Tidal.
It’s so weird that you just have decided that’s the case and there’s absolutely nothing that’s available to help or do anything about it. Even if it wasn’t a thing most services already have and is super easy, you should realise it’s something others need and there are third party tools available.
And even if that wasn’t the case you could literally just take screenshots or write them down and manually recreate them.It’s just mind boggling to try to understand how and why you’re this willfully ignorant.
Here, this will hopefully put your mind at rest:
You can transfer your playlists to any other streaming service. It’s super easy to do.
I don’t understand why it’s so difficult to unsubscribe
May be hard to grasp for someone on lemmy, but some people have a social life
Ah yes, who hasn’t heard about the social life on spotify
Sounds like you don’t get invited to parties, or you’d know what a Spotify jam is
Yeah no, that’s not how that works. You can use any other streaming service for that as well. It’s not inherent to the app, thus not a social life IN Spotify, but a social use OF it. My parties are very fine without Spotify ;)
It sounds like you only get invited to some very weird parties and that you’re also dumb for not understanding how it works.
Well done doe outing yourself for Spotify out of all things.
Don’t need it. Just built my own.
FWIW, I do believe there are Spotify-exclusive artists and Spotify-first releases.
But, Qobuz and Tidal both pay artists significantly better than Spotify; I recommend Qobuz. YT Music might be slightly better than Spotify for now, but Google is taking all the enshittified parts of Spotify and trying to do the same things to YT Music as fast as possible.
Yeah, YT Music is even worse because of the monopolist concern. If they replace Spotify, they basically own the entire music world. Artist literally could not reject YT Music without throwing their career in the toilet (via being absent from all of YouTube, and undiscoverable on what’s left of the web).
Anyway, I was also thinking of Pandora. But there are tons of good music streaming services, big and small.
Please leave Spotify
a disappointed review…Fixed that for you.
I am proud to admit I have never subscribed to shit. You give them an inch then they make you their bitch. They already get the ads even if you pull your pants down. Repect yourself and drop all subscriptions and get a library card nerds
My argument always has been that torrenting is still better and more ethical then subscribing to spotify. Vindicated once again
You can always buy the music directly from the artist? Why steal it from them just like Spotify does?
ITT: People who don’t deserve music. Learn to play it yourself or buy it, there is no other moral option.
Copying data is not theft. Cut it out.
So wrong. Why should you have access to other people’s hard work and creativity for free?
I buy music, but pirsting is not stealing
It sure is. Can you explain how you receiving a product from someone while they receive nothing is not theft?
Yes
I buy albums regularly, but what, you think I have money for a gazillion cds? Lmao
Yeah… it’s called a music collection? Why should you have access to other people’s work for free?
Because right click and save
Guess you don’t deserve art 🤷♂️ Happy freeloading!
Better yet, unsubscribe
The only “review” that Spotify will understand.
And get off play store.
FYI, Qobuz pays artists very well (the most of any streaming service last I checked) and they have a ton of audiophile-grade quality stuff. Been using them for a couple years, highly recommend.
And even if you don’t want a subscription service you can still buy stuff from them :)
Did that the other day for an album i couldnt find elsewhere. Not an unpleasant experience. Will repeat in the future if needed.
Is there a way to see their library without signing up? Ive ditched spotify already but the problem i have is half the artists i like seem to only be on yt and spotify
Even better than show the library, you can buy without subscription
You can view a large chunk of their library via their download shop e.g.: https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/shop
I do think they have some things that are streaming-only, and those might not show up in the download shop.
I can warn you that they don’t have all the artists / songs I used to be able to get on YT / Tidal, but they have enough to keep me happy.
If you can’t figure it out any other way, DM me a list of Arists / Titles / Tracks to look for and I’ll search from my account for you.
half the artists i like seem to only be on yt and spotify
That’s interesting. I don’t think I’ve ever had this problem. Mine seen to be everywhere. What kind of stuff do you like? I’m into lots of indie rock and I always figured if any artists would be missing it’d be my obscure little indie bands
Mostly rock and pop stuff, a little bit of rap. Ill admit i havent looked recently, it was a couple years ago at this point. But Tidal and uhhh idk some other one i cant remember the name of didnt have a bunch of stuff I like, like deathbyromy, bodyimage, demondice, TRiDENT, and some others(probably not an exactly perfect list of what they were missing at the time bc like i said years ago, but ya).
But im pleased now that i got around to checking out a bunch of artists qobuz seems to have everything. And as others have attested to, the quality is good.
I wish Qobuz was available in Slovenia 😓
I’ve been using Qobuz for a while and it’s fine. I feel like I lost a bunch of niche artists when I moved from YT Music to Tidal and then more when I moved from Tidal to Qobuz. Still, it’s got a wide selection and much of it is absolutely audiophile quality.
I wish their Android app had a legitimate offline mode. I have a playlist downloaded that I use when driving, but I often have WiFi in the driveway when I start it. This cause Qobuz to decide to stream the song, and then it continues streaming instead of using the downloaded songs, while I drive around and using way more data than I’d like. I’ve started turning off mobile data, and only hitting play once I think I’m far enough away from the house, but sometimes I’ll drive past somewhere I have the saved WiFi for and Qobuz will switch to streaming, and then just stop playing with no error message in Android Auto once I leave the WiFi and the buffer runs out.
I wish their web app would allow me to access the “For Me” “Daily Qobuz” and “Weekly Qobuz” dynamic playlists. They are a fine way to start my day with a mix of stuff I know I like and new experiences – but I have to open up my phone to start them, because that section is just compeltely missing from the web version.
I still recommend Qobuz every time I’m asked because they both pay artists more and aren’t based in the United States (so they are less likely to kowtow to Trump); I even did the 3-year plan when it was offered. But, my personal experience is worse with them than the other services I’ve used.
I wish their Android app had a legitimate offline mode.
This is my main gripe too, but you can set the playlist to only show and play your downloaded tracks.
What I do occassionally run into is that when I stream one thing on my PC and play a different offline playlist later (without having internet), then when my phone has a connection again, it starts playing whatever my PC was playing. Full offline mode would help here, but the real fix would being able to let my devices independently decide what they’re playing rather than all devices being a hivemind once on internet.
I’d also still recommend them though. I have my gripes, but they’re pretty minor overall. Being able to buy the music is also amazing.
you can set the playlist to only show and play your downloaded tracks
That doesn’t seem to work for me. I’ve dowloaded my driving playlist, and hit the toggle to only show downloaded tracks, but for some reason the Android app still wants to stream sometimes AND when it does it evidently deletes the downloaded version. I haven’t change the playlist in months, and I keep having to hit the download button, because one or more tracks is somehow no longer downloaded.
I have checked both my Qobuz and system-level storage allocation and availability. I’m no where near running out of either.
when my phone has a connection again, it starts playing whatever my PC was playing
Yeah, I do wish I could disconnect those. I understand why someone would want a playlist to “follow” them across devices, but I don’t, usually. Right now, it’s the only way I can get the “DailyQ” to play on my laptop or desktop. But, if I could I’d keep the phone just on the few playlists that I have downloaded on it, and do streaming / exploration / auto-play / weekly shows on my laptop and desktop.
I haven’t change the playlist in months, and I keep having to hit the download button, because one or more tracks is somehow no longer downloaded.
Ah yeah I have that too, but that doesn’t seem to be for the same reason as you.
I don’t generally leave reviews for products I don’t use but I don’t think a few bad reviews will have the same effect as leaving the platform would.
Well, the review/opinion is there for others to see, while just leaving would not make any waves at all. Granted, it may as well be both, but I’m not sure where to go, yet. For instance, as Deezer’s Android app are just 0.1 out of 5 behind it might just tip someone in a better(?) direction. Honestly I thought most of the competitor apps would have been better by now, as they were pretty slick back in the Zune days already from what I remember.
I like Band camp but I buy music a lot instead of streaming it from a service.
I’ve heard good things about Tidal, and Deezer (I’ve never used either of those).
Feedback provides them unpaid market research data, and they do not give a single fuck about artists anyway.
Just stop using it, that hurts them the most.Spotify has always been the music streaming service for people who love music but hold disdain for artists.
It is a streaming service, but seeing as (first) it lets podcasts and music intermingle and (most recently) says it doesn’t mind slop, I have a hard time imagining people who actually like music subscribing.
Its a scam
Spotify? Being disrespectful towards artist??
Not to Joe Rogan.
Or maybe just don’t use Spotify at all?
I’d have to actually use Spotify for that. No thanks.
I’m all up for sharing alternatives that are good/better towards actual artists.
- Tidal
- Qobuz
- Deezer
- Apple Music
Literally everyone pays artists more than Spotify. Even fucking Peleton, apparently.
Tidal seems to be the best option overall. Deezer pays artists less initially than the other services (but still more than Spotify), but the royalties increase for tracks with at least 1,000 streams from 500 unique subscribers each month. Popular artists with more play make more royalties. You benefit Deezer, they benefit you, which makes sense to me.
Qobuz seems to pay highly to artists, but their library is a bit more limited compared to Tidal and Deezer, and their radio functionality is utterly shit.
Apple is the only one I don’t have much info on. I’ve used all four at various points, but Apple Music the least because I don’t like my options being limited to playing it on my Apple TV, and Apple devices are limited to 24-bit/48khz, and Apple has weird EQ that pushes vocals way forward in my experience. I don’t like the music fucked with, just play it without DSP and let my equipment to the work, okay?
Currently subscribed to Qobuz and Deezer, and seriously, fuck Spotify.
I’ve had the opposite experience with Tidal vs Qobuz. Tidal had almost none of what I listen to, but Qobuz did the best job of catching my library when I migrated.
I think it depends entirely on what your music interests are. But I’ve been pretty happy with Qobuz.
I was referring mostly to balancing out artist royalties with service quality/content, but preference is all subjective and their libraries are all huge. I mean, I’ve got several thousand albums, over 54k tracks in my local library and it would barely scratch a tiny percent of these services.
I actually like Qobuz as well, and it’s great for jazz and classical in particular. I have it integrated with Lyrion, but my wife prefers other services, and Deezer is the currently preferred option. We tend to rotate music services periodically and generally have two at any time. We don’t do much with video services, neither of us watches stuff frequently, but we game and listen to music often.
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Edit - I really do find Qobuz’s radio feature to be shit, but with Lyrion I have integrated “Don’t stop the music” plugin that pulls related artists via LastFM’s API and keeps an indefinite music queue going.
In general I prefer owning my music locally, and mostly use the streaming services for discovery.
‘Please leave Spotify’ full stop.
Please stop using Spotify. I pirate all of my music, and you should, too!
Buddy, no.
The best things you can do for artists are, in descending order:
- press cold hard cash into their hands at the end of a concert, after you bought a ticket and merch
- buy their music from their website
- buying their album from your local indie record store
- bandcamp isn’t the worst but it could be better
- buying from a major music store like Amazon or iTunes
- some other options in the middle of the list here
- streaming their music on Spotify or similar
- pirating their music entirely
- sneaking into a show, stealing the merch, and giving them the finger
“i’m supporting the artists”, you say, as you bankroll the AI enshittification of a tech company which was literally founded on profiting from pirated music, and gives artists pennies on the dollar.
cope harder. pirating everything and going to gigs is the most ethical approach in our era and I will die on that hill. buy physical media if you care that much.
No, I’m paying artists directly. When I go to a show, if I get the chance to meet the performers, I palm them fifty bucks.
I buy physical media. I buy downloads from their stores.
I’m deeply confused how you think I’m supporting Spotify. That’s only immediately above pirating stuff, and that’s only just barely above punching the bassist and stealing their shit.
I think you may want to pass your eyes over my comment again so that you can understand what it means.
Although I think if I punched Kid Rock and stole his microphone, I’d be given a Nobel Peace Prize in music.
woaw you are super moral and awesome dude, good for you! I’m just hating on spotify, so if you’re not defending spotify, I don’t really mind if you yell at me for pirating all my music. I’m not gonna stop and I will never stop encouraging people from pirating EVERYTHING.
Thank you, I do try to support the music I like, because I want to see more of it.
I appreciate your genuine and heartfelt sincere support, and I hope you join me in helping good artists thrive.
that last on ahhhh hahaha
Pirating is WHY artists see the shit deal from Spotify as swallowable. Fuck you! You’re not entitled to someone else’s music.
Mate, I’m sorry, but I will absolutely not accept any attempts to shame me into supporting the incredibly exploitative music industry. Artists will create art even without being paid, because that’s how human creativity is. I’m literally an open source developer and I’ve written millions of lines of code without seeing a single penny for my work. Keep yelling into the void if you want, it changes absolutely nothing. If it helps, I also support stealing from corporations. I believe piracy and shoplifting are 100% based and I encourage it as much as I can
You’re an idiot if you think paying musical artists for their work is exploitation. Seriously, brain dead. You don’t deserve music.
if you have a way of giving to artists directly, then sure, that’s fine! buying physical media from record labels etc. isn’t worth it imo, you’re just propping up an exploitative industry just so you can feel warm and fuzzy about supporting artists. i don’t want to pay for that, because i do not believe it is righteous.
my morality is that, I should limit my spending as much as possible, so as to bring about a complete economic collapse of not only the music industry but the entire economy. my morality is likely completely different from yours, which is why I don’t give a shit about your attempts to shame me. it’s literally meaningless to me. your (dis)approval and that of the wider society means less than nothing, because this society we live in is fundamentally sick and disgusting
They all sell their music online. I can do without all the personal, emotional garbage from you. Please keep your point succinct.
lmfao, you don’t get to tell me what i’m allowed to talk about and not talk about, don’t be so silly!
Lmfao ok. Does this mean you’re done arguing your shit point? If you pirate music you are supporting artists even less than Spotify does. Hope you feel good about that, you managed to one up the predatory corporation.
I don’t think that’s actually the case. Can you show any correllation between piracy rates and Spotify rates or Spotify artists counts?
All the histories of music streaming platforms I’ve read/heard have rarely mentioned piracy as a motivation at all, and never as a primary reason. Spotify got popular because it was free. It was free because it provided tons of user information to advertisers and music catalogues for targeting. Artists that weren’t part of the big music catalogues joined because of the huge user base.
Ask a musician and get back to me. You have no perspective or common sense.
So, no evidence for your claims, then?
Wow, you got back to me very quickly. So what did your musician friend say?
Ken Parks, CEO of Spotify, said “Piracy was sort of ingrained in that culture (in reference to pirating programs like Napster). But now Spotify is ingrained in that culture in a way that’s reduced piracy greatly. It’s removed the incentive to pirate.”
Spotify told British MPs in a parliamentary inquiry that raising its monthly subscription above £9.99 could “push users into piracy” using the piracy threat to resist price increases that would have meant higher royalties for artists.
Spotify was founded in 2008, a moment when the music industry had been devastated by online piracy. Revenue had already dropped from $14.6 billion in 1999 to $6.3 billion by 2008.
Spotify has since added filters that cut royalty payments to tracks that don’t reach a certain stream threshold, further adding pressure to smaller artists who had the least leverage to begin with.
The rise of piracy led directly to the creation and power of streaming services like Spotify. Need me to spell anything else out for you?
Edit: Waaaaaiting for a response!
All of my musician friends (3) do all their paid music creation live, and aren’t on Spotify. So, they couldn’t tell me their motivation for being on Spotify is; none of them have ever complained about piracy.
That’s not the evidence I asked for, those are canned statement from Spotify. Do you believe everything Spotify says? They have misled people about their motives before.
Still, thanks for an least engaging with the premise.
Ratio. They don’t sound like very successful artists lmao
I wonder why they wouldn’t be on Spotify if it’s so good for artists? 🤔
Please explain what you mean by “canned statement” exactly? Is a factual statement not relevant if it comes from someone you don’t like?
I buy from Bandcamp, but I’ll stop pirating the rest when Zuck is behind bars for stealing everything at once.
Lol, sure. If piracy disappeared tomorrow they’d still squeeze and monopolize until the stream payments were table crumbs just the same. That’s how corps go; has nothing to do with any of us.
Buy direct if you actually care about getting cash into a band’s hand.
Not sure how you did it, but you attempted to refute my point and then went back to argue for it. Buy music from artists and don’t stream, especially do not pirate.
If you read my other post, you’ll see that i hybridize and do both.
I cant afford to buy every artist that someone flippantly recommends i check out. (8k albums in my library atm) Im not streaming. Pirating is the demo/simmer stage. Followup retroactive purchases are the “yup, good shit” support stage
When they get my support they’re getting 100% of my money rather than what drips down through Spotify’s grip. I’d say that’s a win for both sides
Why do you need to have music that you can’t afford?
?? Chicken and egg? It’s not that i cant afford the things I like. It’s that i need to listen to it first to know if I like it enough to purchase it. If someone recommends me some band I never heard of froma genre im not familiar with, I would like to give it a chance. A heavy portion of the music I love now wasn’t something I knew immediately I would like within 30 seconds of hearing it. The likelihood is their recommendation isn’t for me, but I dont know until I listen a bit and simmer at least a short bit.
So do I just buy everything anyone namedrops outright? Or do I refuse to give a recommendation any chance whatsoever because I make a guess its not for me before I even listened?
So basically, you can self host something similar to Spotify fairly easily or just keep your music on your phone (if you aren’t a die hard quality guy and don’t have millions of songs).
There’s spot-dl to mass download your playlists from YouTube. Granted, YouTube doesn’t have everything. Then you can support your favorite artists directly by buying merch from their website, their albums on Bandcamp, etc.
The thing is you can stop using the app but it will still keep generating playlists for you. By now, it knows you pretty well. So you can just go back periodically to download more songs and abuse of the algo without actually giving them money and ad revenue. From what I understand, it’s the discovery feature that is missing from most open source apps.
Hmm, I grew up with the pirate stuff back in the day but am kind of at the age where I don’t mind paying a little more for things I appreciate. I’m into self-hosting and all, but would love for there to be an ethical and legal alternative to recommend 😅. I think I would miss the jam-feature the most on such a route, as sharing the playlist/queue wherever you are from a huge catalog with friends is difficult to maintain. It seems that convenience is always the way they keep you locked in ☹️
Been selfhosting my music for years (was the initial push into the hobby). Bandcamp is your friend. I also don’t mind paying more for what i like nowadays. Still, I pirate stuff im not sure i like yet, like a demo of sorts. I listen to too much experimental stuff recommended by friends to know what ill love before simmering on it. Then i either go back and buy it, or just make sure to support them in more direct ways like buying more merchandise than I normally would. Pick a band that I’ve been vibing on that month and dumptruck cash on them.
Not a perfect solution, but it works for me, and I think I’ve given more money to artists overall than my table scrap stream pennies would have.
Theres a toooon of sites to just buy digital tracks from. Hdtracks I recall, I have no idea how good they are.
For me, if I’m paying , im getting physical media. Or at the very minimum DRM free media
Bandcamp amazingly hasn’t shit the bed yet. Its not for super popular artists but there is a lot on there. I love their setup: you buy either physical media or digital, you can dowoad the album as many times as you want in any quality, and also stream it unlimited after you buy. No monthly bullshit. (I dont pay subscriptions that aren’t utilities).
I give em 5 more years until they go under.
Would prefer to support Google as little as possible. Why use YouTube?
Because you can’t really grab music as easily anywhere else. You aren’t using YouTube really, just downloading the song once through them.
There are torrents but the scene isn’t the best from what I understand, most songs are missing the moment it isn’t a classic. It might have changed since last I checked.
So just because something is easy, I should be able to steal it?
Well, if it’s between that or paying Spotify to steal it for you. Best is just to buy all your music directly off the bands website.
I did outline you should buy from bands in my first comment. It’s okay imo to pirate a lot even if you support just a few bands. It’s better than what Spotify is offering.
I have yet to find an artist that is available on Spotify that doesn’t also sell their music by the album for a fair price.
Not everyone can afford that.
Hence why I said “if it’s between [piracy for most and directly supporting a few] or letting Spotify steal for you.”
You aren’t defending artists right now, you are defending a parasitic corporate juggernaut that is feeding on the artists.
Why should you have music if you can’t afford it? Do you need it to live? I’m a fucking musician, I am absolutely defending artists. What instrument do you play?
My argument is that people should pay artists for their music. Folks that use Spotify to any degree are the ones supporting the corporate juggernauts. Go directly to the source. Please don’t misrepresent my argument in the future.
Edit: trying to cover all my bases. In pop music, the “artist” is the collaboration of all the corporate entities responsible for producing their talent. I don’t listen to that shit either. Just try to know the artist you’re listening to.
“Wildly disrespectful” is using Spotify in the first place. Stop supporting big tech just because “it’s convenient”.
It’s been known that Spotify is the worst platform for artists for YEARS. If you don’t hate the people who make your music then leave that dogshit platform
And their running of ICE ads.
