wow… OS Subcription-Based with AI?

you’ll own nothing, and you’ll be happy

I’m glad I already moved to Linux for 2 years

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    Why is this sub spreading AI slop?

    The entire article is based on rumors, clickbait and hallucinations.

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    I dare them to pull it through and not back down. It will finally be the year of the Linux desktop known to us in hindsight.

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    “Fully modular” as 'It can run on a toaster" or as “For access to the file manager, subscribe to premium”?

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    Absofuckinglutely not.

    And I say this as a dedicated Windows user who spent a year on Ubuntu Linux a decade ago and hated it. Windows does this, and sign me up for penguin lessons.

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      You’ll be hounded relentlessly to upgrade until you give up and pay the monthly usage fee

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            I’ve been off Windows since 2006, when I switched to Apple. I’ve been off Apple since last year, when I switched to Linux (Ubuntu first, then Mint). It really really rules.

            I used my wife’s Win11 computer recently for some fairly simple tasks (one was converting a Word document to PDF and emailing it to her). It was a borderline nightmare. Using the search field in the Documents folder sent me to the web, Word froze because “Microsoft365 and Office need to update.” Then I get a notice that there’s a BIOS update and it would only let me dismiss the window for “120 seconds.” Add to that that, graphically, it looks like garbage and the whole thing makes me bewildered that this is what passes for the global “standard” of desktop OSes. I feel sorry for people who have to use it.

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              I’m amazed companies tolerate this bloat. I’ve worked at a place where I still had built in Xbox shit popping up all over my desktop while the CEO was standing at my desk talking to me. :-D

              Going home and logging into a “clean” computer is a breath of fresh air.

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        Nah, I’m not the target audience. Switched to Linux over a decade ago with no regrets. Windows is essentially malware now.

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      Yeah, you don’t get to say no thanks. Your boss will still buy Windows 12. The corporate world will still steal your soul. The world of politics will still be corrupt. And Tupac Shakur will still continue to be the CEO of Burger King.

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          Wouldn’t it be great if they didn’t see a price tag as a sign of quality and went with Linux instead? What a great world that’d be…

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            The It department told me the reason that they don’t support Linux is the lack of good endpoint management software and the support overhead compared to MacOs

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              Most endpoint management software supports Linux as well as they do Macs these days (probably better, because Apple keeps locking management agents out of settings). These days, the problem is more one of talent and marketing. You have to have people who actually know enough to successfully manage them, and also the upper brass love to be sold to. It’s all getting there though. I wish more governments would take the plunge, that would help the talent issue at least.

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                They know it exists, they are just very understaffed so don’t have time getting more complex things set up.

                At least the devs get to have Linux if they can fix their own problems, but no more new non Mac Hardware…

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              I honestly doubt that’s true. I’m sure there aren’t any with the same marketing budget, but I’d bet they exist and work just as well.

              If it doesn’t exist, it would if companies started moving to Linux.

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              Lack of endpoint management software

              Then fucking make one?? Software development is part of the IT, no?

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                I’m not sure if you’re being serious, but software engineering and IT systems administration are different roles typically filled by different people.

                A company or organization can have a quite sophisticated IT department without having any software engineers on staff.

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        I don’t care at work because I’m not paying for it or doing anything involving my personal data or any power user stuff. Windows barely matters there. Everything has moved into web apps and websites.

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      I use 10 for my gaming/media PC.

      I’ll use 11 if I have to when using some public computer or something.

      But I absolutely, categorically, refuse to even touch a ‘subscription-based, AI-focused’ OS, ever, for any reason.

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      Just it being Windows, no matter those things, should be enough for everyone to go “Lol. No thanks.” But sadly that isn’t and won’t be the case. Hundreds of millions of people will just go along with it, even the idea of something else existing will never occur for them and Microsoft knows this. All the hate and outrage about how evil they are and how Windows has gone to (from like Windows 95) absolute shit has only made a very small portion of their possible userbase switch to or even ignited the idea of finding out about something else. I think the only way Microsoft will loose enough “customers” is if it just dies, nothing else will make the average person lift a single finger or have a neuron activate for making the leap.

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    Excellent. Finally the cycle of alternating good and bad versions of Windows will be broken. It’ll just be bad versions from here on out.

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        Vista was overall “ok” when paired with hardware that could actually run it. Biggest perk was that for a small window of time, it was the only OS that had DX10 support outside of community patches to emulate DX10 in XP & 2K

        UAC was implemented in an extremely overbearing way that trained users to ignore any critical system pop-ups.

        Aside from that, many of the core systems were unoptimized, and when added on that many hardware partners under spec’d the entry level machines that were being sold with it, the OS performed far worse than it’s predecessors.

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        Vista was better than people give it credit for simply because we now have 8 and 11 to compare it to. Vista sucked but it wasn’t intentionally hostile towards the user like new versions of Windows are

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          Vista only really sucked if it was installed on an old PC or one of those cheap “Vista capable” machines that only had 512MB RAM.

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    So when they said “windows 10 will be the last windows”, they were kinda right. Just not the way the imagined…

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      I don’t wanna sound like someone defending Microsoft, but that line was taken out of context. It was originally something like “last one you’ll buy” meaning they’re giving free upgrades now to future OSes.

      …but then again, even under that meaning this is pretty shitty. Most people would rather buy something than have to rent it forever. Especially when the norm is already that they own it. Doubly so when that price is already hidden and baked into the price of the hardware the user is buying. Most folks probably aren’t even aware they’re “paying” for Windows in some form when they buy a laptop.

      (Yes yes nobody owns Windows, they own a license to use it blah blah blah.)

      It’s sort of funny to me, that original Windows 10 “last OS” thing came from around the time Jetbrains tried to push a subscription model over a purchase model. They ended up going with subscription with a perpetual fall back license which seems to be the best of both. (Once you pay for 12 continuous months, whatever version you had at the start of the 12 months you get a perpetual license for. So if you stop paying the subscription after 15 months, whatever version existed 12 months ago you can use forever.) I can’t really see Microsoft doing that though.

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        meaning they’re giving free upgrades now to future OSes.

        Isn’t this essentially a Freemium model? Free to play, pay for the upgrades and premium features like Windows Defender?

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    Windows 12? Well, I’m using Debian 13. 13 is a bigger number than 12; therefore, Debian is better than Windows.