Fancy cupcakes are 70% icing, really not that nice and a waste of money

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    The icing is the only part I like - I literally eat the cake separately so that I can maximize the icing-to-cake ratio in a single bite.

    This is mostly because frosting is “wet” and offsets how dry the cake is. I dislike the dryness of the cake so much I prefer to eat most of it in one go and get over it, and then enjoy the rest of the cupcake with my preferred 9:1 proportion of icing to cake. 😆

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    All billionaires are evil people that decide to accumulate wealth instead of distributing the surplus and living off enough to not have to worry about the future. All. Of. Them.

    Yes, even Taylor Swift and Gabe Newell. They have enough money that they could set 100m aside, live off that and charge break-even prices for their products so more people could enjoy them or they could charge the same thing and redirect their share of the profits into charities, they choose not to.

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      I’m a Taylor Swift fan (not a Swifty) but I’m 100% with you.

      I pirate her music (tbf all music). I’ve gotten into heated arguments on Lemmy on how she’s one of the “good” ones.

      No such thing as a good billionaire.

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          She became a billionaire by selling tickets for more than necessary and makes the choice to continue doing so to enrich herself.

          As I said, there’s no reason she couldn’t have started doing shows that only broke even once she had enough money to live off of for the rest of her life, she decides not to do that and she decides to continue accumulating wealth we can’t even imagine.

          Remember when Musk said if he could prevent famine for 6B he would do it, he was presented with a plan and didn’t do it? All billionaires are guilty of doing the same thing and the way they accumulate the means to do that is by selling us things for more than they’re actually worth.

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        My completely unbiased exception is LeBron.

        “Ain’t no party like a Diddy party”

        So wholesome.

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      Isn’t Gabe’s net worth literally just the value of Valve? In order to cash his money out, he’d have to sell Valve.

      I don’t want him to sell Valve. I like him being in charge of Valve, he’s doing a decent job.

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        He’s got a yacht collection, six of them, costing him more to maintain a year than you and your children will ever be worth.

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        Buy, Borrow, Die. Rich people don’t sell shares. They take very low interest loans banks are more than happy to lend them. Use their shares as collateral. Then pay no taxes and only a small amount of interest. They do this forever until they die.

        It’s why everything is associated with “make number go up”.

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      I agree and it’s pretty obvious if you think about it for a short while.

      Even religions know this, it’s just a simple fact of life.

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      You are completely correct. There are so many exits before becoming a billionaire that any normal person would take.

      Once you have millions you can live comfortable. Tens of millions and you’re set for life, you can live in luxury without ever doing another day’s work.

      Hundreds of millions and you can buy anything you ever want or need. The only reason to continue accumulating money is because you get some fucked up pleasure from it.

      You can claim you “earned it” through “working hard” but it’s a pathetic assertion. The simple fact is money is only gained at the expense of others.

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    We should be using soap and water after popping, toilet paper alone is barbaric

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          If you ever make your own bathroom or get your choice in the matter, go full french: get the separate porcelain fixture that has separate hot and cold valves, with the soap and towel.

          I have a Toto seat and, while it’s nice, the stream is small, leaking potential poo water down your legs onto the inner edges of the seat is… (It doesn’t seem to happen, but still), and the internal warm water tank is small.

          I used my ex’s much cheaper one a bunch when we were dating, and his was cold only but like a garden hose flow rate. It was so fucking fast and felt so much nicer. But didn’t oscillate, have aim, pressure, heated seat, dryer, or any of that stuff…

          Plus, without the soap, I don’t really want to use a towel to dry my bits off.

          So ideally, it would be temperature adjustable, PORCELAIN AND NOT PLASTIC, high flow/adjustable, be an actual bidet where you can fit your hands down there to wash yourself with soap and water, and then have a designated towel so that you eliminate more if not all tp usage.

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          They’re are cheap bidets out there, and the are premium ones. The premium ones (like toto) are worth it, but I’d start with an inexpensive one to see if you enjoy it first.

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        You just gave me a really good idea for a portable bidet actually. I normally use a little squeeze lotion bottle but it doesn’t have the required water power… Now I gotta find some of those tiny water guns we used to have as kids.

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          It’s exactly what it sounds like in this context. Think of a garden hose attachment with a trigger. You point it at the right spot, pull the trigger, and wash your bum clean.

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            My mental image is in the shower… Yeah, actually, why not just use the shower with a cooter cleaner instead of a bum gun? Or… Are we talking about the same thing?

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              Well a bum gun is specifically designed for the job, but yeah it’s probably the same idea as what you’re thinking of.

              You could use the shower but the shower heads are not typically installed next to the toilet.

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              I have one, it’s just like the sprayer thing for doing dishes on many kitchen sinks except attached to the refill hose for the toilet. You just aim and spray, it’s fantastic and easy to clean cause it’s not actually inside the toilet bowl

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      Hard agree. Bidet + soap is the most hygienic way. I was actually surprised to learn that even some bidet users don’t use soap and literally just blast their ass and hope it washes away everything. You’re already halfway there, might as well use soap and be completely clean.

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        Oh no, I’m not washing my ass with soap every time, but I commend you for commitment to the cause.

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          Ikr, bidet yes, I don’t have one but I have used one and its better. Soap though sounds like a way to have a really dry butt.

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      No idea if it’s barbaric but it certainly is not as clean as it should be. At least, I think so.

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      I sort of agree, but I also poop 5times a day. That would take up a lot of my time.

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            Some people can’t see well from birth… doesn’t mean you can’t get glasses, or in your case go see a doctor (and get a poop infusion to fix your gut flora XD ).

            But seriously, it could be worth checking out. Maybe you have a tumor or cancer or one of those beowold smeagals or whatever

            Edit: bezoar. Seriously it could be curable and you could poop once a day. Think of the free time for activities!

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              I also poop several times a day. Went and saw a doctor and he said “yup, totally common, and nothing to worry about.” Normal humans poop between 1-6x a day. Pretty crazy that there can be such a variance.

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                It’s even funnier for babies. It’s normal for them to poop in between every 12 days or 12 times per day.

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        I do several rounds as well and I can tell you washing with soap and water using a bidet is much milder than wiping yourself raw with toilet paper. Washing once per round also takes the same amount of time as wiping several times until you feel “clean”.

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        Would it? Paper is nice and dry but washing your ass at the bathroom sink and towel drying is faster in my experience. It’s just more of a hassle, but it does feel a lot cleaner.

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    God damn tomato slices in everything from hamburgers to toasted sandwiches as if everyone is supposed to like raw tomato by default is pure discrimination against the non tomato eating populace.

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      Tomatoes are notorious for being impossible to remove from a burger. 6 children died last year trying to remove them. So many vegetable-adverse people put through incredible pain having to ask for it to be held. When will this injustice end?

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      Yeah. Tomato goes on pizza. Why the fuck are we not putting pineapple, something that doesn’t belong on a pizza, on hamburgers instead?

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        We do in Australia. You can get a hamburger with the lot that often includes an egg, bacon, beetroot and a pineapple ring.

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    I posted a comment on Reddit telling about how the word racism really means a person who is a subscriber to the pseudoscience that is race.

    Tons of people downvoted me then reddit admins removed the content for harassment, of all things. (None of it made sense to me)

    I’m sad that people still think that people are different races, and to not be racist you just have to not put one over or under another, when the crux of the problem is fundamentally that people don’t get that race was made up because long ago dumb people thought that people that looked different were a literal different species but couldn’t prove it so made up the word race as a subcategory in the taxonomic system, but finally scientists realized it’s complete bullshit since it’s impossible to define, total bullshit, wildly inconsistent, and massively harmful… and I’m sad that people there literally couldn’t comprehend that, and got so mad or offended that they censured the information and thought I was arguing against the existence of systemic racism or something that only a dumb piece of shit would misinterpret.

    I linked the Wikipedia page for racism which explains all of it, including history and stuff.

    I was triggered for like a week trying to figure out what I said wrong, and honestly still kinda bothered.

    But, that is what race is: a bigoted idea that different people are different races and shouldn’t/can’t interbreed. And that’s the stupidest bullshit that MOST people don’t understand, and I’ll die on this hill, explaining that we gotta stop all being racists. Yeah, fix the problems like systemic racism, but stop thinking of people with darker or lighter skin as different - they’re just warm weather humans or cold weather humans, the same way buff or skinny humans are. Fuck. We’re all literally just humans, an amazing species, capable of adaptation and survival.

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      I think you’re right, but imo the disagreement i feels like really stem from the way you put it, as you talk about race in a biological science while they think you’re talking about ethnicity(social science?), and then there’s this odd fixation with no compromise which kinda what caused the friction, even though i think both party might agree with each other.

      Also reddit and online forum is mostly made up of weird people so idk.

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      Man… I got banned from a kink community sub because I edited my comment with a automagical editor…

      It replaced my text with gobbledygook and then was going to delete it…

      The mod came across the text said something to the extent of “this makes no sense” and banned me under their “because we can” rule.

      I sent the mod a message with links and an explanation… he came back with your original post is gone. So you are too.

      My reddit account is 14 years old…

      It bothered me for a while too… and still dones I guess since I’m here talking about it… but honestly mods are gonna mod… they are small people with a smidge of “power” you could have said hope “you folks have a great day!!” And gotten banned.

      It happens. Sucks tho

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        Yeah I’m stopping using Reddit because of how fascist things are now around the world, in hopes of keeping access to my similarly old account because there may be a lot of porn on there, but there’s also a ton of good resources and important things.

        Maybe if things turn around in a few years, I’ll consider resume using reddit. But the more-intelligent-than-a-rock part of me knows otherwise.

        Too many people getting banned for fascist and sketchy reasons. So instead of participate there, it’s now just an archive to me.

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      We are all different, I don’t know how you can deny that. And some differences can depend on where your ancestors are from.

      If it’s not “race” then is there another way of describing it?

      In animals we call it breeds. Sounds weird.

      I think as an advanced species we should be capable of ascending beyond the descriminating behaviour based on origin. I know it’s possible as I can. Seeing other people first reactions to meeting people get described with race undertones is alien to me and feels disrespectful.

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        Well the problem with trying to subdivide humans is that

        A) it’s actually really really hard to do, so hard in fact that it’s impossible and is a pseudoscience B) it basically always results in comparison. Which gets bad REALLY quickly because suddenly there is a better or worse, an inferior and superior.

        I’m not saying we aren’t different, I’m not saying that.

        But, as far as species, we ARE all the same. You, your sister, your neighbor, your great great great grandfather. We all have our differences and generic differences, but they’re infinitesimally small, we are just VERY good at telling the differences because we’re so used to staring at the same face over and over.

        There’s just so much crossover and mixing and volatility. People can change from one to the other or halfway and stuff, there’s no clarity. Like, me, for example: I’m a mix that people look at me and get very wrong 95% of the time. And then if I have kids with somebody that doesn’t have the exact same mixed heritage with me, it’s like… Wtf do you even call me?

        And then if you learn some anthropology and learn that long thin limbs and people are from hot climates close to the equator, and short ratioed people are from further (surface area to mass ratio, keeping warmth) away from the equator where it’s cold.

        Like… You can be vague and descriptive a little about it, but when you realize that reality is just that we’re all the same species, with no limits to interbreeding, it makes so much more sense.

        Let’s say you take a pale-ass white guy and strand them near the equator for ten years outdoors. Does that guy suddenly become a different breed or race or whatever you want to call it? No… it’s the same person, the same species, even if he looks different - he just adapted and his body is like “holy fuck it’s hot and I’m trying my best to not get skin cancer and the right amount of vitamins from the sun”.

        And same thing for brown skinned people (let’s just say Mexican natives). You take a young couple with darker brown skin, and move them to norway or somewhere cold with VERY little sun (latitude). They are going to lose melatonin in their skin and become paler. Let’s say they have kids and you inbreed them for a few generations. They will get progressively more pale, and start to look more adapted to the region, likely even take on regional issues.

        And the reason why is because we’re all the same type of monkey. (Not actually monkey because that’s a different offshoot, but primate; we’re great apes!).

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          I mostly agree with you. And I commend your principles.

          Some of your examples need improving is all I’ll say.

          Like sending a white guy to the equator for a decade. Okay fine, they go dark skinned. But bring him back up north and he is white again. Send a super dark skinned guy far north and he will get somewhat paler, so it works both ways. But they retain that difference because they are different.

          We have developed differences mostly based on our origin in the world, be it Asian, African, Egyptian, Indian, etc, but we are such an internationally mixed people the differences are meaningless.

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            Actually, yes, and actually, no.

            If you take a white person and put them in the equator for multiple generations, they’ll turn brown. If you try to put the result back north, it’ll take them multiple generations to get pale again.

            There isn’t really an inherent difference between us. There are small mutations or diseases that can kill, like Alzheimer’s, but those are all basically incidental. Your genes can change, that’s what evolution is.

            We ALL came from Africa, anyway, and then settled down in various places for a while, adapting. The longer people have adapted, the more they’ve adapted. But it doesn’t set anything in stone, and everybody still retains that ability to adapt.

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              That’s basically evolution lol if you go down that route then we are all plankton, animals and all.

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            There you go the key to all of this is “meaningless differences” justification to divide people, then make one group appear less than human, then exploit, steal from and murder the savages for the profit of the few.

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              Racism is a taught trait. Children aren’t racist until their peers or guardians teach them their racist world view. I think we agree on almost all points, I just don’t think it is pseudoscientific.

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          Yeah humans are actually all pretty close genetically compared to other species. And “race” as defined by society isn’t even a good predictor of genetic similarities, so for example if you take random people A and B who are black, and person C who is white, B and C will often be more closely related than A and B.

          Also as a sidenote, we are monkeys. Apes are now considered to be a type of monkey taxonomically.

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        You’ve never had infants around other infants.

        We all have the same child. They all act the same behavior is the same… Patterns are the same Etc…

        Humans don’t really start to develop in different directions and speed until they are like 18 months old.

        Our coloring and physical features might not be the same… but the basic operating system and internals are all the same across humanity.

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          Yes I agree, this is human. Just the same as all dogs wag their tail and bark. Like other posters have said, the differences are subtle and we are all more the same than different.

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        Breeds are defined by organizations that determine breed based on lineage, followed by conformation. They do not align across different countries. Dogs have the AKC, CKC in America. They don’t follow the same definitions. It also causes lots of issues to classify things like this and leads to bad decision making by lots of people. Even as it is now, there’s no clear definition for things like Pit Bulls. There’s also a ton of health issues that arise from defining breeds and trying to follow this logic.

        Humans are not controlled and bred based on these things so a Breed Standard would not be possible. There is simply a continuous line of people.

        Perform a cluster analysis on dogs - they will kind of fall into clusters because we bred selectively for them. But humans, which have not been selectively bred even in smaller geographic regions, would not provide decent clustering results based on race categories.

        Without good clustering, whatever groups you make have more inaccuracies than accuracies in your grouped statements. (Border collies are high energy, greyhounds are lazy > 65% true at best) this is because of the insane complexity of DNA and the lack of selective breeding artificially limiting the DNA diversity. Plus other stuff.

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      You are absolutely correct: “race” is a social construct that is created along artificial lines (pigment, facial features, etc).

      The truth is that we share ~99.9% of our DNA with every other person, a gene pool so small that there is more diversity between troops of Chimpanzees.

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      I’ve been thinking like that for a long time but recently I’ve been thinking about it in terms of internalized opposition. One of the most pernicious elements of the fight against stupid and bad ideologies is when their framings gain dominance even in the minds of their opponents.

      At some point, someone said ‘black people are blah, white people are bleh,’ and the person next to them probably said ‘What do you mean black people?’ because the concept was new but the ideology of race turned into such a common one that people who were oppressed by it were forced to consider what the powerful thought about it, like an atheist prisoner being forced to think about how to convince a Christian jailer to be less awful to them. They internalized it. And now even people who are ‘anti-racist’ often treat ‘blackness’ and ‘whiteness’ as if they were real, and not just conceptually different in the same way you can live in a different country without moving because the lines on a map change. Even as they battle the concept, they try to do it from within the system, prisoners demanding to be free without acknowledging the world outside the prison walls.

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      Can’t see what your original comment was, so missing a lot of context here.

      I agree with what you said, but race as a biological thing is not how most people think of it. Most people interpret race in the context of skin color and ethnic groups, i.e. in a sociological context, and within that context it makes absolutely no sense to claim that race does not exist. It would be nice if it didn’t exist, but that’s not where we are right now as a society.

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      If you’re smart enough to know all that, you’re smart enough to know that being suspicious of differences is how our species survived, and we’re not going to evolve out of it anytime soon.

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      Lol so true dogs have hundreds of “breeds”. Then you have cate, which are all just cats, The people who will argue about their “mesothelioma short hair tuxedo chocolate” are just weirdos.

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            I’m admittedly not a cat person, however there seems to be quite a difference between a Maine Coon and a Sphynx. I agree though that long hair vs short hair of the same breed is negligible and doesn’t need to be an entirely separate breed.

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                There’s another comment in this thread that points out how slippery a slope it becomes when you try to apply breeds to humans, but that is kind of the idea isn’t it? You seem to accept it in the case of dogs. Either way, I don’t really have a hard stance either way, was just more curious of your reasoning.

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                  I mean, nobody’s saying dogs are different races, there’s just dogs with different phenotypic traits. When they match a certain known pattern that’s a “breed”.

                  It’s about as real as beer recipes matching certain styles. Race isn’t a real thing, it’s just sets of traits that people are used to seeing in certain populations.

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                  You assumed I accepted it at dogs just because I pointed out the irony of all cats just being of the house variety. To me dogs are dogs guess what wolfs are dogs too. You dirty ape. :)

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    Unless the post itself is a commentary, posters should put their own opinions in the comments, not the title or description.

    That way they can be up/downvoted and discussed separately.

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    Ironing clothes is stupid and useless and shouldn’t be a thing. I haven’t ironed any of my clothes for decades now and they never look any different than the clothes that were ironed. It’s a scam! And humanity won’t be able to progress if we keep doing it!!

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      Ironing clothes became a thing when all clothes were made from 100% natural materials.
      Today, unless you specifically go out of your way to make sure, chances are that none of your clothes are made from 100% natural materials.
      One of the advantages of plastic fibers is that they don’t wrinkle as much.

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      True for jeans and hoodies, not true if you need to wear nice pants, button down shirts and blazers to work.

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        There’s a hill I’ll die on: screw that 19th century-ass business dress crap.

        Nobody gives a crap outside of a bunch of boomers who are still arguing about how offended they’ll be if you don’t put on a monkey suit to sooth their egos, so like, we should just stop that crap.

        Also: ties. Who the hell came up with the brilliant idea of wearing a noose?

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      It really depends on the garment. I’ve rarely ever ironed my clothes, only random occasions where the item I want to wear got wrinkled and I didn’t have the time to fix it any other way. I’ve also never had a job that required anything fancier than business casual, so that could be part of it.

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      I’ve only ever ironed work clothes. I had an ex that used to iron my jeans. I thought it was insane but they enjoyed it.

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    Fahrenheit is a perfectly cromulent unit of measure when the use case is for referencing human comfort.

    The rage it incites in others on the internet is just a side benefit. It’s hilariously awe-inspiring just how wound up some people get over a personal preference for a unit of measure. Mr. Fahrenheit should be proud of what he accomplished.

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      You feel like Fahrenheit is good enough because it’s what your used to. Just say that and it’s all good.

      I use Celsius for weather because a) I’m used to it and b) where I live, knowing the temperature relevant to the freezing point of water is extremely relevant when considering the weather. You use Fahrenheit for the weather only because you’re used to it. There’s no benefit other than that.

      I do use Fahrenheit for cooking, but not because it’s better in any way, but simply because I’m used to it. I know the effect setting the oven to 400, 350, 300, etc, will have. It’s not a better unit of measure, I’m just used to it, and in the context of using my oven, it’s not worthwhile to me to learn the equivalents in Celsius.

      It’s ok to say you prefer something simply because that’s what you’re used to using. But Celsius is a better unit of measure, just you’re not used to it. You know what 70F, 80F, 90F, 100F feels like from experience, ie. you’re used to using that scale. It’s fine… just weird to say something is better simply because it’s what you’re accustomed to.

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        The problem with Celsius and it’s relation to the freezing and boiling point of water is that water is a rare chemical that is less dense as a solid so it will freeze AND boil at different temperatures depending on pressure.

        Freezing temperature isn’t 0 at 1500 meters and it doesn’t boil at 100 either.

        Edit to add examples:

        On Mount Everest water boils at 72 degrees

        In Denver, Colorado water boils at 94 degrees

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            Nobody ever said you did, but billions of people don’t live at sea level and because of that water doesn’t boil or freeze at 0 and 100 for them.

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              Do you think water boils at 212F at high altitudes? No matter which temperature scale is used, the “billions of people” living at high altitudes need to understand how pressure affects the boiling point of water.

              I think the billions of people you imagine living on top of Mount Everest understand they may need to make adjustments to cooking instructions regardless of what temperature scale they’re using. If they don’t, using Fahrenheit won’t solve their problems.

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                My hell dude, you’re missing the point so hard you’re either a troll or so belligerent you’re not worth talking to. Never once did I say Fahrenheit was better, it’s like you’re just shadowboxing with yourself at this point.

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        I never said Fahrenheit was better, just that it was perfectly acceptable for use as a measure of human comfort.

        I’m not going to get into what I usually go into because I only commented to answer OPs question, not start a(nother) internet flame war. A lot of people who use Celsius go absolutely NUTS when someone so much as hints that Fahrenheit has some usefulness.

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          It’s a deprecated unit of measure. In a lot of forums like this one, there’s a lot of people that work in the technology field and we’re always annoyed by people that insist on sticking with something that’s deprecated because people invent rationalizations for why the thing they’re used to is better. I use Fahrenheit for cooking but I’m not telling people I do that because it’s better in some why, I know I’m using a deprecated unit of measure solely because I’m used to it.

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      The issue is not in the accuracy, ease, and convenience of describing and being compatible with the human experience. It has never been that.

      The issue is Fahrenheit’s/imperial units’ compatibility and division factor of 10’s compatibility with other units, and all of those scales and units being consistent and predictable.

      It’s literally just two philosophies of going about seeing the world.

      To disclose my bias, I was brought up with imperial units. The problem in most discussions of these two ideas facing off is that nobody discusses the real topic: The pros and cons of unification vs. the rote arbitrariness of the human existence and whether or not we want to stand behind yet again another self-centered description of the universe.

      Measuring horses with hands is fucking weird, but because we experience horses from our own perspective, which is limited to our physical body, measuring in hands is a really easy way to understand that unit of measurement, as opposed to decimals of meters.

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        However, I must point out, Celsius is not metric. It’s been adopted as the step-child of SI, but it’s not metric. You can’t meaningfully multiply and divide degrees Celsius; 100°C is not ten times hotter than 10°C Celsius. Sure. you can use the metric prefixes, just like i could measure things in kiloinches, that doesn’t make it metric. It’s just as arbitrary as Fahrenheit, and people have to make arguments regarding water and life to try to pretend otherwise. True, it’s officially defined in terms of Kelvin, but then, so is Fahrenheit.

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        I was watching a video just before where an american measured two impact craters on a piece of steel, read off some gibberish fractional inches for each one then commented “my math isnt great, but i think that one is about double”. My dude, your calipers read off approximately 5mm and 10mm, your life would be so much easier if you toggled it to metric units.

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    The Petty One: Optical Media is Bad. It has always been and always will be. We used it for as long as we did because there was no better choice. But when it came to music I went straight from tape to mp3 because I never trusted CD’s, and I will continue not to trust CD’s.

    The Serious One That Might Ruffle Feathers: The entire school curriculum of every country should be wiped out – And replaced with fifteen years of nothing but reading comprehension. We live in an era where information is extremely cheap but knowledge is priceless. And to go from information to knowledge, one needs to have a well developed reading ability and bullshit filter. There’s no point memorising a bunch of nonsense when it is easier and faster to use technology – We stopped doing recitations when we invented writing, you know? – What IS important is understanding what you are seeing and recognising lies for what they are.

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      Reading comprehension is incredibly important. Bullshit filter also sorely needed. I get very frustrated when I see people falling for obvious false information. I’ve been shown AI videos that are clearly fake but they believe it.

      I think my favorite are conspiracy theories who won’t believe something backed with like, facts, but will believe this 30 seconds tik Tok from someone they don’t know quoting someone they also don’t know.

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      I don’t think I can put into words how much worse my life would be if we followed your second suggestion. There are a great many things I never really wanted to learn about, but I’m incredibly glad I was still taught them - starting from basic stuff (like maths etc) over arts (especially poetry and literary analysis) to sciences (especially physics and chemistry).

      I would understand far less about the world, I could never engage as deeply with media as I love to, and I couldn’t have built so many things that require holistic insight into our world.

      I’d be a far less developed version of myself, because I wouldn’t be able to follow my interests the same way.

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        I must wonder why not. Like, clearly those things are enriching to you, aren’t they? Why wouldn’t you have learned them on your own terms? Assuming nothing was stopping you? You seem not to be an incurious person? Again, information has never been cheaper, you just have to look for it.

        Like I’m not trying to make fun of your explanation or even say you’re wrong. Just… Genuinely wondering how come

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          I wouldn’t have known how much I enjoy some of those things. Let’s stick with literary analysis - I hated doing that in school, really hated it. It was a slog to get through. Until I one day read something I enjoy, and started feeling the things I learned to analyze. Suddenly the text wasn’t just a text, it was a conversation with the author. It made me engage with reading on a different level, and also taught me to utilize the same techniques in my own writing.

          But I know myself well enough to know that I wouldn’t have been able to force myself to learn that stuff on my own. Writing literary analyses and having them read, critiqued and graded by my teachers was essential to learning it. Yet I would have gone on thinking that it’s a waste of my time, had I not been forced to learn it.

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        Go on… so what’s the right one? I can’t understand why anyone would go to attack others without offering a superior alternative. Like, you may as well just not say anything, then. If you don’t have a better idea, then theirs isn’t worse because you didn’t even provide a rebuttal.

        I’m not even on the side of the person you responded to, but why would you not want to state what would work better? That’s just trolling.

        • The “right one” is to stop treating it as a “single issue” matter and dismissing literally decades of education research.

          Maybe go read a modern textbook on education and see what issues there are, what the research on the subject says, and derive from that some conclusions about any “single issue” approach to education (whether it’s “TEHY JUST NEED MORE JEEBUS!” or “we should throw everything out and replace it with reading”).

          So the “right one” is to shut the fuck up if you think there’s a one-size-fits-all approach to education. Kind of like if you think there’s a one-size-fits-all approach to anything. Even carpentry.

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            But you’re not offering even any example of possible models so how can anyone take your position seriously if you refuse to share more of your stance when asked? Lack of transparency is not cool, as well as assuming; I never once said one-size-fits-all.

            • I gave you an example of a possible model.

              READ A BOOK BEFORE OPENING YOUR MOUTH AND SPEWING DRIVEL.

              I’m not here to give you an Education 101 course. (Frankly, given your performance here thus far, I’m not even certain you could understand the contents of such a course.)

              And if “throw everything way but this one thing” isn’t “one size fits all” what is it!? You’re literally saying "everything being done now is wrong and we should do this ONE THING for everyone. That’s practically the definition of “one size fits all”!

              I get it. You’re a techie and have been trained by techie culture to think (or at least pretend) you’re the smartest person in the room. But to first causally dismiss literally decades of research to then propose a “solution” that is risible on the face of it goes well past typical techie arrogance and into Elon Musk territory.

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                “Given your performance?” Since when were discussions, heated or not, a performance? I never said anyone was right or wrong here with their stance towards education, but you’ve only said to not treat it as a single issue and nothing more, which is what I have beef with. When I asked, “so what’s the right one,” I didn’t say that I believe there is any “one” right way of education, but you’re continually saying to just read “a modern textbook on education” without even suggesting exactly what to read. What such book do you recommend?

                I have not once called you “arrogant,” I have not called you “a techie,” and I have not said you have been “spewing drivel”; name-calling is the territory of Reddit and I hope we can agree to leave it there, but you didn’t even bother to reply to the original commentator’s response, maybe because he’s right; that’s what I was going off of. All I’m getting at is to not troll people in that closed way.

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      That’s correct. In school the most important thing you can possibly learn is to learn. Information is abundant and easily accessible, the school, university or even research labs are no longer gatekeepers of information. But knowing HOW to find resources, HOW to filter it, HOW to use it, HOW to sit your ass down and work with information in a meaningful way is a specialized and rare skill.